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This profile was suggested by Nachef,...of course. What we were going for was a Dulce de Leche filled coconut custard pie. And that is exactly what we accomplished, at least by Folkart and MaxSavage's account. Nachef did not agree at all with us. He said he got a "suntan lotion" off note. So, he increased the JF Dulce De Leche to 2.5% and he liked it a bit better, but we seemed to agree that FLV Coconut was probably not the right coconut for him. Perhaps for those that get that "suntan lotion" off note, substituting it for FA coconut might be a better fit. But for the rest of the team, it's perfect! See the full Episode and flavor notes at https://youtu.be/mKjsCb1bOKs .
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OK, so this recipe is a remix of a fairly popular eLiquid that takes on a different state of matter for rocks. It turned out to be quite a challenge, and while there are still some differences between this recipe and theirs - I feel this recipe presents a more natural representation of the flavors.
The profile is fairly basic: Strawberry, Pineapple, and Coconut. What I get from the commercial version is a very bold vape which has a rather strange Strawberry flavor, a very deep Pineapple, and a hint of Coconut in the background - all somewhat artificial, syrupy, and 'candy-ish'. My issue with the commercial recipe is it has an odd chemical note to it. It took many iterations to come up with this recipe. My first attempt was to use all TFA flavors, but that just was not even close. Over time I kept changing and layering flavors till I got to this recipe.
I do get a hint of TFA Pineapple in the commercial eLiquid, which might account to some of the chemical notes I get. I tinkered around a lot with the Pineapple flavors over the course of this formulation. My initial attempts centered around CAP Golden Pineapple for that deepness but it just did not seem to fit for some reason. I finally ended up using a little TFA Pineapple for that twang it has along with a blend of INW and VSO Pineapple to give it a very natural Pineapple juice character which is not as deep as the commercial liquid.
I'm somewhat a Strawberry mute, so it is always a challenge for me picking out particular aspects of Strawberry in a recipe. The OG eLiquid seemed to be a sweet and candy like Strawberry, but there was also some kind of bend to it that I could not put my finger on. I tried TFA Strawberry Ripe and TFA Strawberry to no avail. I eventually ended up with using JF Strawberry Sweet and INW Shisha Strawberry which tends to sit well in this recipe.
Most of my recipe variations centered around TFA Coconut as I do get that suntan lotion vibe from the commercial eLiquid. After a while I switched to FA Coconut to get a more realistic Coconut representation in the mix. You could still go with TFA Coconut at around 2.5%. I also added FLV Coconut; not for the Coconut flavor, but to fill out the volume of the vape. I did find that the FLV Coconut did start to bend the Strawberry to the rather unique quality I get from the commercial product.
While I would love so say this recipe is very layered - it is not really. What eventually settles on the pallet is a Strawberry Pineapple flavor with a hint of Coconut that lingers on.
I developed this recipe using the Hadaly and OG Recoil RDAs. I found that higher wattage elevates some of the underlying flavors in both the commercial and this recipe (like Coconut). The Hadaly was running a 0.5 ohm fused Clapton coil at 32 watts, and the Recoil was running 0.18 ohm dual Clapton coils at 70 watts. I also tested this in a Wotofo SMM Serpent RDA running 38 watts on an 0.5 ohm fused Clapton coil. The brighter aspects of the Pineapple were somewhat missing from the RDA, but still a fine vape.
A thick, rich coconut custard with a boozy bourbon edge.
I used to hate coconut, but after I started vaping it I've become a bit obsessed! I've made a lot of coconutty recipes and I think has to be one of my favourites. Bourbon and coconut is such a delicious combination. I'd put bourbon and/or coconut in everything if I could!
Custard: with this being an all FLV mix the obvious choice was Vanilla Pudding. Cream adds creaminess and mouthfeel. A little Coconut adds a ton of richness. White Chocolate works really well in this mix. It seems to be acting as a kind of bridge between the coconut and custard. I tried consolidating the number of flavours in the custard layer, but it just wasn't as good.
FLV Bourbon has a nice touch of booziness and darkens the whole mix. It works really nicely with Sweet Coconut.
Best after 14 days.
Tested on Hadaly, 0.6 ohms
Diy Downunder Flavorah mixing challenge- dessert.
Cavendish- nice pipe tobacco with cherry notes that goes well with the berries.
Blueberry muffin- main berry but not much of a muffin.
Boysenberry- to boost the blueberry.
Raisin rum- to darken and add a little warmth to the berries
Coconut- to add butter to vanilla pudding.
Poundcake- for a little bit more texture and cakiness.
White chocolate- a little bit more butter and sweet chocolate drizzle doesn't kill anyone!
Hope you enjoy!
Coconut Honeysuckle Ice Cream
MIxers' Club January Entry
This months assignment was to broaden our horizons, chose a profile you have not previously done and develop a recipe. The only profile I haven't touched on, or at least made a concentrated effort towards was Florals.
My original idea was Coconut and Honeysuckle Rice. I was excited by the prospect because it was an outside of the box recipe and rice was another profile I didn't get to mess with. However, this fell flat on it's face. I just could not get it to work together the way I was intending too. My original intention was a dry cooked rice, but FE Sweet Rice just can't do that on its own, it was leaving me with almost Coconut Rice Krispies in cream. I didn't have the flavors to get it to where it needed to be but if I was to revisit that concept, I think VT Rice Base or FLV Starch Base would be a solid step.
At an earlier point in time I was chatting with @isuamadog and he told me about Macapuno Ice Cream. Something I have never heard of. Immediately after the rice fell flat on its face that was the first thing I had thought of. Apothecary Elixirs (RIP) used to make a really damn good Coconut Honeysuckle Ice Cream and after closing up shop there is obviously no way to get it anymore so I decided to attempt my own version. While we were supposed to be outside of our comfort zone and Ice Cream is clearly my comfort zone it felt a little cheaty . However, I wanted to make coconut and honeysuckle happen. And thus Midnight was born.
LB VIC + HS VIC + TFA VS - The obvious. A super creamy slightly malty ice cream base. I was actually extremely surprised at how well the coconut paired up with the ice cream and brought this to a whole new level.
FLV Sweet Coconut and FA Coco'- This is my go to Coconut blend right here. If I'm doing a coconut recipe it will involve these two flavors. I usually start off at a 2:1 ratio and adjust the individual percentages according to the recipe. The combo brings a nice bold coconut flavor with next to no "sunscreen" off note.
FLV Coconut- Like most FLV stuff this one is a powerful flavor. Just a touch of this into the pairing of coconut brings a little bit of a coconut butter to add a bit of thickness to the coconut.
TFA Honeysuckle- Brings a little juicy sweetness in with a subtle floral note to wrap up the mix.
I've made a few minor adjustments to the recipe since the start. Playing with the coconut percentages as well as the honeysuckle. I have not yet, but I want to try and lower the Ice Cream Trinity to see how everything else plays with that. While I don't think lowering the ICT is exactly necessary as the mix is at a pretty good point where it is, I want to try that out just to see what happens. I did try and add some WS23 into it to see how it is cold, and 2 drops to a 15ml absolutely ruined the mix. It mutes basically everything but a bit of Coconut and Cream so that's a no go.
This has been a very fun recipe to work on, trying to nail down which flavors that would make this authentic, but also translate well in to a vape recipe.
The first thing that had to be done was get the crepe/pancake right. WF Crepe SC was a given choice here, as it has that light and soft dough note, everything you want from a pancake/crepe flavor. By itself it is a bit too light though, especially when you’re throwing a lot of other powerful flavors on top.
I know that @foment_life used CAP Cinnamon Danish Swirl in combination with WF SC Crepe in his Breakfast of the Gods recipe, something which is perfect here – as the Crepe needs a bit more dough to stand out, and we also need that cinnamon spice for the filling.
I did experiment a bit with other combinations such as LB Belgian Waffle (which also has a slight cinnamon note), and FLV Rich Cinnamon, but I found none of them to be as good as the WF Crepe/CAP CDS combo, as the cinnamon note should be “just there” to make it as authentic as possible. CAP Cinnamon Danish Swirl v2 can be used as sub for the v1, I have tried with both and I honestly don't taste any significant difference.
Next up was trying to find a good flavor to replicate the palm sugar syrup, which is used both for the filling and garnish. WF SC Molasses turned out to be the best choice here, I’m not 100% convinced it’s the most authentic, but it is however by far the most yummy, as it has that brown sugar note that plays great with the coconut. The other flavor I experimented with was VT Golden Syrup, but the caramel note in there makes the recipe way too sweet to enjoy for longer periods of time. I wouldn't recommend trying to sub the molasses, it's very unique, especially how it interacts with the sweet coconut notes.
Third, the coconut BOMB. Look at the picture and you’ll see how coconut heavy this recipe is. The whole filling is just heaps and heaps of grated coconut, so the coconut needs to be a very good tasting main note, and also have a great body to it. This has been by far the toughest part of the recipe, as the very flaky texture is hard to achieve, so you just have to settle for how yummy they are.
My conclusion of this is that you can actually use 2 different combinations, but there is 1 flavor that has to be in there no matter what – FLV Coconut. It’s the only flavor that really has that thick (almost) grated coconut feel to it. It’s extremely potent, so use it with caution. DO NOT KNUCKLE TEST THIS FLAVOR!!!!
The second flavor that I landed on is FA Coconut, I think it also has some of the same qualities as FLV Coconut, it’s a bit flakey but also brings some of a milky note. Together they make a great thick and very yummy coconut flavor.
The third flavor that can be used as a sub for FA Coconut is FLV Sweet Coconut. This is by no means a bad sub at all, and I think some people might even prefer it. I don’t though, because I don’t think it has the same body, so not as authentic. I’d recommend using FLV Sweet Coconut at 1.5% if you plan on subbing.
VT Dessicated Coconut could maybe also be an option for the cocobomb, I'm not sure it would taste better, but maybe more authentic. It is was out of stock on Chefs so no way for me to get it just yet.
Last, I’d say the lime could be left out, but I feel it does precisely the same job as the lime in the real dish – by adding a strong contrasting note it elevates the other flavors. I also think it makes for a much more pleasant vape, as the other flavors can become a bit boring in the longer run. VT Shisha Lime was the best choice as it doesn’t water down the other flavors as much as other limes.
I did also experiment a lot with different dragon fruits, as it’s a common topping to use. I did however realize that I had to scrap that idea, as there was just no way to make this possible as it’s such a “weak” flavor.
Lickity Split is the name of one of my local ice cream shops, I used to love getting banana splits there when I was a kid. I've all but given up on chocolate but wanted to work on the rest of the profile. I've had all these flavors for awhile, but haven't really tried using any of them outside of the coconuts and custard before. I thought the custard would help thicken up the mouth feel without changing the profile flavoring too much. I kind of like this better right off the shake tbh, the banana seems to settle in a little too much after a week or so for my taste. Others may like it that way though idk :)