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Santa chillin after a long night. This is what his ass vapes.
So, this started out as trying to find a way to use a flavor I really enjoy, LB WCPM. Solo up to 10-12, it delivers flavor, a very sweet, seriously minty, lightly chocolatey vibe. I decided to try to keep this as high as possible and to try to accent it with as little as possible. The first attempt was wcpm 12 / ct shade 1.5 / choc deutch 1.5 and I really enjoyed what was happening. Eventually I sorted it out to wcpm 11 / ct shade 1.25 / CD 0.75. What you get there is a reaaaaaly sweet mintiness that has a dark musky undertone of cocoa tobacco wrapper and a slight choc coconut finish. I liked it and decided to try to balance it all a bit better. I was testing ry4's and got kind of bored and dripped a little of the early version on after and realized it was a much deeper, fuller flavor with the ry4 in there. At first I thought, why not just use the FE with some mint and make a minty caramel until I realized I had the work all done right here and tested the v1 with some FE in it. The flavor, while 'good' and kind of 'what i wanted' just didnt seem to make sense to keep the WCPM so high. It worked fine supa high as a featured flavor with minor accents but it wasn't quite jelling here. Tried a few percentages and settled on this combo as a nice compromise.
This is like a chocolate andes style mint with some caramel to mellow it out. Best after 6 days, but totally SnV for me.
Some notes: This version is the most "tobacco-y" version of these flavors that I liked. I was intentionally trying to use the WCPM as a feature but bring it down enough to where the tobacco is prominent. I had my friend, fieldgreens, send me some feedback and he got a lot of leaf out of it. I vape tobaccos nearly all day, so I don't even notice it. If that's you and you want a non tobacco version of this, I would say the three main flavors work together pretty well: WCPM, CD and CT Shade. So, if you're set on trying it but a tobacco newbie, give WCPM 8-10 / CD 0.75-1 / CT 0.25-0.5 a whirl. Or sub in a less tobacco-y RY like JF/MB/FA
WCPM - A very interesting flavor with a really pleasant mint and a really wide range of % for use. I've taken it up to 12 and it can get sickly sweet but the white chocolate doesnt get offensive, just a little too creamy and in your face. At 7.5, that's the lowest I could get it here and still have it be 'minty' but I can see it used as an accent even lower. Early versions had it much higher and when I want it sweet, I dial it up to 10. (currently vaping a version at 10 as I type).
Choc Deutch - A really nice chocolate with hints of coconut. Early versions had me using this over 1% and that coconut finish was good, just I found it distracting and aimed for lower just to have that add to the creaminess of the white chocolate rather than as its own accent. If you want this sweeter, more chocolate-y, dial it up to 1.25/1.5 max ime and you get a prominent flavor out of it.
CT Shade - Touted as a cigar leafy wrapper, famous for being a bully in a mix, generally used at 0.25-0.5 as an accent in mixes. at 0.25 it's ruined mixes for me. Here at 1.25, it brings those strong hints of cocoa and coffee while still bringing that leafiness and making this an unusual tobacco vape. There's really no filler bacco so all that chocolate and sweet don't let my mind register it as a tobacco mix. I'm also used to it, so it doesnt stand out to me here. The other flavors stand up to it quite well imo
FE Ry4 - I chose this based on tests that gave me a dry leafy almost spicy vibe. I didn't want something wetter or too caramelly. I've tried other RY4's as a sub here and without. I think I like this as a bridge between the white and dark chocolates from the WCPM and the CD so it stayed put in the final recipe.
- The distinct coconut finish that was there with a higher CD is now not there so if you want that, crank that up to 1-1.5
- The mint is mellowed so if you want full on, you can increase the WCPM the same amount you decrease the RY4 or it'll be crack your teeth sweet. Or add some yourself. I imagine Arctic winter in low percents will work with a bit of a steep. ymmv
- You can probably sub the ry4 for another. FE is a bit 'drier' and 'leafier' to me. Fit really well with the mix and the shade specifically. They kind of melded and made the shade notes less distinctly prominent, turning that tobacco base into something much more akin to brown richness.
- Should note that after two weeks the baccos are more prominent so if you dont like that, make only as much as you will vape in a week or bump up the WCPM a bit.
I can see doing a zillion things with this and, likely, probably will. Enjoy, don't be afraid to adapt, comment, or trash it.
safety note: FLV CD is on the Avoid list. idgaf :)
Chocolate Virgina Tobacco
( All Flavorah Recipe)
This was my go to hand-rolling blend and i think this mix nails the most remarcable notes i remember from back in the day.
Golden virginia is a sweet, smooth blend and i always smelled a dark chocolate note when opening a new bag, thats why we have Chocolate deutsch in the mix also helps smoothing out the finish.
Virginia was an obvious one, this concentrate is pretty one dimensional so here just adds the sweet and bright virginia leafy notes.
The main tobacco of the mix is Cured, as a generic tobacco filling is the best, also plays wonders with Red Burley, both giving each other complexity and some chocolate - nutty nuances.
To add that little extra notes of realism i used Cream and Sweet Cigarette.
Golden Virginia is a super smooth blend, quite sweet with the smoke being dense but yet soft and slightly ashy :
0.8% Cream and 0.2% Sweet cigarette nail this part.
Mix / Steep:
I suggets 70/30 to get an extra smooth vape but 60/40 is also really nice.
You can SnV or either leave it 3-5 days to settle down but as always with FLV Tobaccos after 2 weeks they come back in a really nice and nuanced way.
Originally I wanted to make a coconut custard/pudding but after tinkering around with the recipe I felt the chocolate element turned this into something truly delicious. If your a fan of these 2 flavours I really do recommend you give this one a go,I’m really happy with it thus far. You can S&V this sucker but naturally it will only get better and better. Please rate my recipe and leave a review for the world to see. Happy mixing 😀💙
This is attempt at coco by the pound. A nice chocolate pound cake. Pretty spot on imo. Enjoy.
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[Update 7/15/2019] Added 0.5% FW Sweetener (or the sweetener of your choice at the comparable percentages). I found that as the original recipe aged it got harsher, and the sweetener seems to stabilize that a bit - I'm still testing)
Here is my take on one of my favorites the Black Forest Cake. If you are a lover of cherries and chocolate cake and have had a Black Forest Cake I'm sure you know what I mean. Unfortunately chocolate and cherry flavorings are difficult to mix with. Regardless this is my attempt at replicating this delicious cake.
The chocolate cake is a combination of JF Yellow Cake, HS Australian Chocolate, LB Lava Cake, and FLV Chocolate Deutsch. I tried to strike a balance between the different chocolate flavorings to minimize the off notes and accentuate the good notes - regardless chocolate flavors are very polarizing in the vape community and I'm sure to some it will not be agreeable to their senses.
To me INW Cherries, at low percentages, is fairly authentic with minimal cough syrup notes, but at those low percentages it was not enough to overcome the cake flavor. I decided to add INW Marzipan which increased the Cherry flavoring adding a sugary depth to the Cherry note. One thing I want to try is to get my hands on TFA Cherry Extract to see how that plays, but I had a difficult time finding it so I went with what I had.
Lastly is the heavy whipped cream which I used CAP Vanilla Custard and TFA Whipped Cream to emulate. The Vanilla Custard adds a richness to the cream note as well counteracts the dryness of the chocolate flavors. It was kept low to not elevate the Vanilla note as well as to minimize the steep time of the recipe. I added TFA Whipped Cream to further increase the creamy quality and volume to the vape. I tried adding it at higher percentages, but I found it wanted to mute some of the other flavors as it steeped.
For me the vape is a creamy chocolate initial exhale with the chocolate and cherry notes lingering on the palate with a slight tartness. Is it perfect? - no - but it is still quite good. For the most part I vape this in a single coil RTA like a KayFun V5 or the Coppervape Skyline clone with a 0.3 ohm Clapton coil running around 36-38 watts. I have vaped this in RDAs with mixed results so you have been warned. It seems that the flavorings are best delivered at a medium vape temperature. Since I mainly vape on single coil restricted airflow RTAs this recipe scratches my itch for this flavor profile.
Holy wow this is a great flavoring! Really prime as a standalone, one you surely don't want to miss out on if you like German Chocolate Cake. It's got a delectable cakey chocolate, and a tasty sweet coconut undertone to it. Even though this flavoring is great by itself, its complexity does make it somewhat more difficult to mix with. Its obvious role is going to be bakeries focusing on chocolate and coconut, not many other directions it can be taken due to the pronounced chocolate and coconut. I feel like if they were able to take just the cakiness from this they would have a pretty great sub for FW Yellow Cake.