Coconut with a slight banana nut bread back.
While testing coconuts for Noted I decided to try out a theory of mixing both MB and WF together to get a nice mix of the two and layer it into some banana nut bread with the eventual idea of layering in some tobaccos. I liked the initial layer and was only trying sort of hackneyed baccos with it. Not sure when I will get back to this so here's the bare bones good as it stands. Needs a bit of a steep for the BnB to come out. I waited over a week but I'm guessing at least 5-7 days should be sufficient. It's screaming for a tobacco layer so I hope you have fun with it.
This was a mix I made with Grey^ on the diy_ejuice discord. He wanted some help making a nutty tobacco with chocolate notes using the flavors he had. This is what we came up with. I tried it alongside him and he alternately liked it and didn't at the same time. It gave him ideas of where he wanted to go next which gave me the idea to share it with the community as a beginner tobacco. RB is generally recommended to new tobacco mixers due to its moist nutty uniqueness with chocolate undertones and general appeal. Cured is a great bacco body booster as well as a star flavor when used alone. Both of these entry baccos can be used in a variety of ways. The rest of the flavors used will either be in a mixer's arsenal already (cap vc & fw hazel) or be a welcome addition to one (hs aus choc).
What you get here is a dessert tobacco. Strong dessert on the inhale with a bacco finish.
Bacco blend: RB/Cured are used to create the base. RB is pushed up to 2.5 here to compete with the rest of the flavors. I would rarely use it this high in a straight bacco blend. Cured is used to fill out the body. The RB can be lowered to 2 and still show up (more in the finish than the inhale) and cured can be raised to your comfort level (0.75 - 1+) for more bacco forward.
Accents: HS Australian Chocolate is not my favorite chocolate. Used low here it presents minorly and can likely be boosted to 0.75 or greater but I didn't try it. The idea was to make it an undercurrent. It doesn't taste quite right without some sweet. I chose Cap Vanilla Custard for its thick mouthfeel and ubiquity and vanilla note. FW Hazelnut was added to bump up the nuttier notes to poke through and support.
- I would say that there is room here for the addition of more bacco flavor if someone wanted to pull it up into the front. I rather enjoyed the bacco finish over the direct inhale. I rather suspect the bacco notes from some Hangsen's would do well here to dry it up some more if that's your thing, or possibly the addition of INW Gold Ducat or FLV Tatanka (or something suitably dark and sryupy) would be a nice addition.
- Adding some nuttiness would help to make the nutty note from the RB more prominent. As it stands, there isn't much in the way of nut really showing up here. I could also see the addition of an ry4 or FA Soho being a welcome accompaniment. The world is your oyster, my diy friends.
- If you choose to eliminate the Cap VC you may need to add a little sweet flavor to match the HS AC.
Can be SnV but needs at least 24 hours to settle in in my opinioin. Better after 3 days, but at 7 days it seems to be as mature as I'd need it to be. Didn't last much longer than that for me :)
Mixer's Club December 2020 - life is like a box of chocolates...
ID10-T has too much faith in my mixing abilities. But i have faith in him. So, we tried out his ideas for FM TB Mint. I liked this one the best.
TB Mint / FLV Turkish - He called it. Great combo. I feel like you get the mint up front and then a pocket of spiced bacco before the minty chocolate finish.
CDM / Choc Deutch - Two great flavors that go great together. CD is lower here to keep coconut note from showing up unwanted and the CDM keeps the mint up on the back end.
Milk Chocolate - Felt it needed just a wee bit more chocolate in the finish. This did tamp down some of the bacco mint flavor upfront, but I felt the sacrifice was well worth it to wrap the whole thing in a more convincing choc rather than just be a hint.
I'd give it ten days to settle yet can be great right after a few days.
Mixer's Club December 2020 - Chocolates
This is kind of a mash up of two incomplete recipes I'd mixed: Dec 26th and Frank's Vanilla Cigar. The former lacked a proper bacco filling and the latter lacks a strong counterpoint to the Cohiba. Together with a few minor changes, this came together for me. Here you get enough accents and such to smooth the heft of FM TB Cohiba and you get the sugary sweet mint from the WCPM boosted by the choc Deutch. It's a little weird, admittedly, and probably definitely entirely too sweet. Vape this in the morning with coffee, after dinner, or voop it up. All tested and true.
So this was entirely inspired by @Hexical and his SB Kiwi candy mix. I wanted it a little less candy, more berry and no kiwi. So this is what I came up with. Credit goes to Hex for inspiring me to try my hand and make it work for me. So that's the connection for me despite this not looking much like his at all. :)
I've mixed this with a hint of mint and intend to try it with a bit of coolant which I can assume will be good and as per your tastes. If you want it sweeter and haven't tried Hex's, start there.
FM Cohiba is a strong cigar even at 3% (recommended use on the website is much higher). It gives a gritty mouth and is almost too authentic for me. So i decided to soften it a bit with vanilla for pipe and a little sweetness from ry4 double. Still very much cigar forward, it has a strong vanilla note with a sweeter finish. This was an attempt to make this flavor work after a poorly planned initial sft at 10% that had me ill like i vaped a real cigar. Designed, developed and approved by Frank, my barber, who said, "It's the bomb". Frank's a good guy and he likes cigars.
Mixer's Club April Submission - April Fool's: make a tasty vape with one odd ingredient - FLV Arabian
I originally wanted to use LB WCPM to make an odd vape with tobacco. That ended up being a delightful ADV for me that I had no need for feedback on. So when it came submission time for this entry I was out of fresh ideas that I wanted to pursue (and test various failures of). So, I saw some notes scrawled on a post-it note by my computer and I remembered a mix that worked with an idea I had a while back to use FLV Arabian as an accent note to a bakery of some sort.
I have been really lazy mixing during Covid, mostly spending the time doing tests and write ups at the computer over the busy life I generally lead where I can make some tests and not have a chance to vape it until 3-4 weeks later when I next have time. Needed a quick mix one day and decided to try Kokanda's Sick AF. I like SC and MnH so why the hell not? I was struck off the shake how sweet it was and it didnt have a strong singular note that stood out on top of that sugar. I figured this would be a great base to play with and i probably over-complicated it with a couple of flavors I knew would pull it where I wanted. To top it all off, I added a few drops of Arabian and so v0 was born. The current recipe as it stands is a bit pared down. I am currently in love with WF HnC with tobacco thanks to Tesla DelMar and so I opted to leave out the MnH from the original mix. SC could probably go higher if I wanted a prominent 'cookie' vibe, but I didn't. I wanted it to be in this nether region between sweet and spicy, tobacco and bakery, sugar and cream. I chose WF Caramel Butter over FM or FA Caramel or an RY4 because I wanted it to play to the cookie vibe, HnC because good but also to add that nutty creaminess to blend the bacco to the cookie. Decided to see if I can bend the spice notes of Arabian just a bit with a touch of Cardamom. For me, 0.5 is about right but here I'm going for an indistinct blend of warm subtle spice. This is a new addition and I know Cardamom works but not sure if it will poke through enough at 0.15, but fuck it, let's try it. It is taking the place of FW Hazelnut which was there to boost the nut and overall vibe, I just felt it wasnt needed opting for SV for mouthfeel and to match that ry4 vibe. The Cardamom should add to the overall flavor, blend in nicely but also remain a distinct, warm spice that plays both sides tobacco and bakery while highlighting the Arabian spice notes. Not like me to play it light touch and, if anything, I am proud of my restraint.
Do mind the steep. I haven't actually pinned down when it gets best, 2 weeks is a minimum guess, 3 probably better.
Thanks to the support of the gang in MC for being such a cool group and always encouraging me to try new things!
Santa chillin after a long night. This is what his ass vapes.
So, this started out as trying to find a way to use a flavor I really enjoy, LB WCPM. Solo up to 10-12, it delivers flavor, a very sweet, seriously minty, lightly chocolatey vibe. I decided to try to keep this as high as possible and to try to accent it with as little as possible. The first attempt was wcpm 12 / ct shade 1.5 / choc deutch 1.5 and I really enjoyed what was happening. Eventually I sorted it out to wcpm 11 / ct shade 1.25 / CD 0.75. What you get there is a reaaaaaly sweet mintiness that has a dark musky undertone of cocoa tobacco wrapper and a slight choc coconut finish. I liked it and decided to try to balance it all a bit better. I was testing ry4's and got kind of bored and dripped a little of the early version on after and realized it was a much deeper, fuller flavor with the ry4 in there. At first I thought, why not just use the FE with some mint and make a minty caramel until I realized I had the work all done right here and tested the v1 with some FE in it. The flavor, while 'good' and kind of 'what i wanted' just didnt seem to make sense to keep the WCPM so high. It worked fine supa high as a featured flavor with minor accents but it wasn't quite jelling here. Tried a few percentages and settled on this combo as a nice compromise.
This is like a chocolate andes style mint with some caramel to mellow it out. Best after 6 days, but totally SnV for me.
Some notes: This version is the most "tobacco-y" version of these flavors that I liked. I was intentionally trying to use the WCPM as a feature but bring it down enough to where the tobacco is prominent. I had my friend, fieldgreens, send me some feedback and he got a lot of leaf out of it. I vape tobaccos nearly all day, so I don't even notice it. If that's you and you want a non tobacco version of this, I would say the three main flavors work together pretty well: WCPM, CD and CT Shade. So, if you're set on trying it but a tobacco newbie, give WCPM 8-10 / CD 0.75-1 / CT 0.25-0.5 a whirl. Or sub in a less tobacco-y RY like JF/MB/FA
WCPM - A very interesting flavor with a really pleasant mint and a really wide range of % for use. I've taken it up to 12 and it can get sickly sweet but the white chocolate doesnt get offensive, just a little too creamy and in your face. At 7.5, that's the lowest I could get it here and still have it be 'minty' but I can see it used as an accent even lower. Early versions had it much higher and when I want it sweet, I dial it up to 10. (currently vaping a version at 10 as I type).
Choc Deutch - A really nice chocolate with hints of coconut. Early versions had me using this over 1% and that coconut finish was good, just I found it distracting and aimed for lower just to have that add to the creaminess of the white chocolate rather than as its own accent. If you want this sweeter, more chocolate-y, dial it up to 1.25/1.5 max ime and you get a prominent flavor out of it.
CT Shade - Touted as a cigar leafy wrapper, famous for being a bully in a mix, generally used at 0.25-0.5 as an accent in mixes. at 0.25 it's ruined mixes for me. Here at 1.25, it brings those strong hints of cocoa and coffee while still bringing that leafiness and making this an unusual tobacco vape. There's really no filler bacco so all that chocolate and sweet don't let my mind register it as a tobacco mix. I'm also used to it, so it doesnt stand out to me here. The other flavors stand up to it quite well imo
FE Ry4 - I chose this based on tests that gave me a dry leafy almost spicy vibe. I didn't want something wetter or too caramelly. I've tried other RY4's as a sub here and without. I think I like this as a bridge between the white and dark chocolates from the WCPM and the CD so it stayed put in the final recipe.
- The distinct coconut finish that was there with a higher CD is now not there so if you want that, crank that up to 1-1.5
- The mint is mellowed so if you want full on, you can increase the WCPM the same amount you decrease the RY4 or it'll be crack your teeth sweet. Or add some yourself. I imagine Arctic winter in low percents will work with a bit of a steep. ymmv
- You can probably sub the ry4 for another. FE is a bit 'drier' and 'leafier' to me. Fit really well with the mix and the shade specifically. They kind of melded and made the shade notes less distinctly prominent, turning that tobacco base into something much more akin to brown richness.
- Should note that after two weeks the baccos are more prominent so if you dont like that, make only as much as you will vape in a week or bump up the WCPM a bit.
I can see doing a zillion things with this and, likely, probably will. Enjoy, don't be afraid to adapt, comment, or trash it.
safety note: FLV CD is on the Avoid list. idgaf :)
Mixer's Club Submission March 2020: Blue in a bottle of Milk
I had an idea to start with... Blackberry cigar with a hint of milk chocolate. I bumped into AlfredPudding in the MC server and asked him if he wanted to add a submission and I would graciously mix it up for him. He ended up jumping in as a collaboration on the concept and swapped out some flavors for others, suggested some percents and this mix was born. I got pretty busy, so i didnt get a chance to really mess with percents. I really didnt need to. After about two weeks, I felt the tobaccos were still a bit soft and wanted to bump them up. Never got to trying it, and glad I didn't. At about three weeks, they all slide together to make something that is just really interesting to vape. So, i don't know, make of it what you will.
It's nicely balanced, with the tobaccos just laying in the cut providing a base for the rest of the flavorful components. Blackberry at 1.25 blends harmoniously with the berry-like components of Black Cat for Pipe, Dates adds the depth to the dark fruity undertones in Dark for Pipe, and lavender all but dissolves into the mix lightening it up in a strangely delightful way; it's nearly impossible for me to discern it individually. It turned out to be very interesting to me and I hope you like it.
Edit: I kinda threw up the notes quick for MC but wanted to make it clear, Alfred steered me away from the chocolate and brought in the lavender and red dates which make this a unique mix. It's more his than mine and now it's yours. If you try it, I can guarantee it will be worth the wait. And please do wait. The tobaccos end up being very delicate in the mix and need time to level out. Definitely a steeper.