2nd mix I'm sending in for August's mixers club entry.
Since I started DIY, I've been chasing my white whale which is cloning Adirondack Vapor's McKinley. I got their approval on reddit to try and clone it even! It's not so much a latte as chai tea with a tiny dash of cream/milk from what I can recall. Notes of tea, spice, and cream. CAP Chai Latte is definitively the chai that they use. I've tried to combine it with everything else -- Custards, the tried and true creams, bakeries, horchata, lemons, etc. I fell down the rabbit hole of making the mix perpetually more complex over time and I'm taking this chance to bring it back to basics and rebuild the mix from the ground up.
To me, McKinley is so thick its almost juicy and I often found myself almost choking on the thickness of the vape even at just 70/30. Something in there is giving it a really really dense mouthfeel, but its not eggy like a custard. So I'm opting to try TFA's FV Deluxe for its malty, acetyl goodness. FA Catalan Cream for its spice and citrus notes here, which compliment CAP Chai Tea's natural spice and citrus note as well. FA Honey is there to give it some of that sticky sweetness, and some of the slightly vegetal/floral properties that clover honey has. This was a last minute addition and may be on the chopping block for flavors to remove/replace in this recipe, but when I thought about that thick mouthfeel and mouth-coating sweetness of McKinley, Honey seemed to fit the bill perfectly and I don't know why I didn't consider it sooner.
This isn't the end result by any means, but hopefully it's a good jumping off point to work with after I get some feedback from the group!
Changes: Dropped FA Honey from 0.75 -> 0.25. The longer it steeped, the more the FA Honey ruled over the mix. Ended up being chai flavored honey. FA Honey at 0.75 is fucking awesome if you want a sticky goopy clover honey flavor, with the pollen-y mouthfeel to match! But not what I wanted in this mix.
Intended to send this in for my 2nd August's Mixers Club entry but will be sending something else. Still, It's a lazy ass mix that simply tastes good.
I went with the plainest tobaccos I could find. Sweet dessert baccos with fairly simple profiles and medium to light body on top of a malty hazelnut butterscotch pudding base.
Shout out to one of my favorite bands that I was blasting the entire time I was thinking this mix up. If you like groovy, doomy and fuzzy metal, check out Windhand! The sheer heaviness and droning fuzz of their music helped inspire me to create a thick and malty recipe to chain vape while listening to their stuff. The title of this mix is taken from one of their recently released songs.
A Cinnamon Sugar Poundcake mixed for August's Mixers Club.
FW Caramel Cinnamon Roll, JF Yellow Cake, and FLV Poundcake are my cake base here. A good fluffy cakiness that's heavy on the tongue, bolstered with TFA VC to add some egg and butter notes. TFA Bavarian cream keeps it wet and helps it vape smooth. TFA Brown Sugar as the primary sweetener and to add that vibe of the brown sugar marbling throughout the cake.
the theme was lazy, so I went uber lazy with the percentages but it's a pretty good mix! Warning: It's vapeable SNV then over the next few days the cinnamon gets really strong. After about a week it'll die down and the custard and creams will open up a bit.
EDIT: bumped up TFA VC, after a 3 week steep my original test wasn't nearly as thick and buttery as I intended.
A wet, ice cold melon & cucumber mix.
FLV Wild melon, TFA watermelon, and TFA Honeydew are the base here obviously. It's a nice well rounded melon foundation, some candy notes and some natural melon notes. It's tasty. CAP Cucumber is an excellent cucumber flavor with a lot of wetness as well. TFA Pear brings some graininess to the melons, although subtle. INW Cactus Lime is my new Swiss army knife. It brings that thick juiciness that we all love from cactus but the lime adds some zing and helps cover up that weird cactus note that I don't always want in a mix. Coolant and Sweetener to taste, and can even be omitted but I've been craving that powerful cooling and the sugar lips most commercial juices give.
With some guidance/flavor recommendations from CBV, this is my attempt to clone Marlboro Southern Cuts. Of course they're cigarettes so they smell a lot better than they actually taste, but that's fine as vaping tobaccos is often more like vaping the aromas of tobacco rather than actually smoking it. Plus these smell amazing. I've done 3 iterations so far and this is the closest, still subject to change/revised versions in the future. Yes I know it's a shitton of flavors, but it was for mixing experience, not so much for an ADV.
On-the-pack description: "Uniquely rich and smooth. Our master blenders begin with choice Burley, Virginia and Oriental tobaccos in creating the distinctly flavorful taste and warm aroma they call Southern Cut."
Personally, I get a really rich honey note when I first open the pack and give them a smell. Other comments on them often report hints of vanilla. When I smoked them, I distinctly remember a slight nutty bitterness on the aftertaste as well as an overall fairly dry profile.
INW Gold Ducat + Dark Fire: This is the honey note here. I remember when I first started getting into tobaccos I bought gold ducat because I liked the name, and when I did a sniff test on the bottle it immediately reminded me of that same scent I got from Southern Cuts. I'm leaning on it a bit here in this mix because of that, and Dark Fire brings some more of that honey note to really lift it out of Gold Ducat and put the fruit and cocoa/coffee notes I get from Ducat moreso in the background.
FLV Red Burley + FLV Virginia + INW TA Oriental: These make up the tobacco blend inside for the most part. Gold Ducat and Dark Fire are great vapes but they are fairly aromatic and I needed something to make up that medium-bodied tobacco leaf blend. I basically went straight off the pack's description here. My only gripe is that I get that hay flavor from Virginia here, but I don't want to throw off the accuracy of the mix and v2 is by far the closest I've gotten to legit Southern Cuts. If I am to make a change, I'll likely replace Virginia with FLV Kentucky Blend.
FLV Classic Cigarette + DNB: Bringing some ashyness to the party here. CBV mentioned to me that he gets some Burley notes from FLV CC and I had to agree with him. I think in combination with FLV Red Burley, the CC at a rather heavy handed 1% blends in fairly well but brings some of that crucial burning cigarette paper note. DNB is there to simply bolster that.
TFA Toasted Almond + Vanilla Tahity: As explained before, these are here simply as accents. I chose Toasted Almond primarily for that slight bitterness and dark toasty nut notes. It's pretty smooth in comparison to "nutty" tobaccos like 555 gold, which give me nothing but straight roasted peanuts so I opted to just use a specific almond flavor instead of another tobacco. Vanilla Tahity is an excellent vanilla for tobaccos because it's rather dry and also has some almond notes, but it's soft and sweet. These 2 can potentially be bumped up to 0.75% or even a full percent but I wanted to keep it subtle. The tobaccos are the star of the show here and I just want the occasional whiff of vanilla and almond.
Was watching VICE's "F*CK, THAT'S DELICIOUS" with Action Bronson. They were touring the borough of Queens, NEW YAWK and picked up these awesome Colombian snacks that looked amazing.
It's a crunchy waffle wafer layered with Dulce De Leche in between. There's probably better choice for the waffle cone out there but I'm limited to what I got. Still experimenting with this so subject to change in the future! If you mix it up, leave a comment and let's brainstorm!
INW Biscuit and TFA Graham Cracker Clear are going to be the crunchy, primarily for the texture and dryer mouthfeel + FW Waffle for some waffle flavor. Keeping it low so it's just barely noticeable and doesn't give too much maple flavor some folks get at higher percentages.
JF Dulce De Leche because it's fucking amazing, TFA Dairy Milk + FA Fresh Cream to soften it because I don't want a syrup, more of a creamy spread. Plus they help to smooth out the recipe in general so you're not vaping on straight dry biscuit with dulce de leche on the side.
A creamy caramel cigar fit for a filthy gunslinger. It changes a lot in the first week or so, give it some time.
JF RY4D - better than tfa. A bit more tobacco, cleaner vanilla and caramel.
FA caramel + butterscotch - takes a short steep but once they mature it turns into a goopy sticky caramel drizzle.
TFA FVC - It's malty, rich mouth coating vanilla but not as thick and eggy as custard. Definitely underrated, I put that shit on everything.
INW TA Cuban Cigar - straight no frills cigar wrapper leaf flavor. Light, leathery, no bull shit.
INW 555 + FLV Red Burley - primary filler tobaccos for the cigar, 555 adds that nuttiness and Red Burley melds similar notes with a dark, rich and earthy filler. Perfect intersection of profiles.
INW DNB - you're gonna have a cigar and not smoke it? Light that thang up, Blondie.
A golden Turkish tobacco, with undertones of classic Eurasian spice and subtle dried fruits
INW Gold For Pipe - Using this as the primary base, nice light blend of tobaccos with slight sweetness. Some notes from ELR mentioned citrus notes but it's pretty indiscernible for me personally, just adds to the slight fruity undertones here.
INW Gold Ducat (reformulated version) - Mellower than the old one IMO, but still a moderately dense body that adds some dimension to the vape, brings some smokiness and spice with nondescript fruit notes.
INW Tobacco Oriental & TA Oriental - Looking at these two as one unit. Using them pretty conservatively, but they bring some legit turkish tobacco flavor into the fold and really round out the sweet & spicy tobacco I'm aiming for.
Dry with a pretty hefty throat hit off the shake, but if you really like spice they're strongest the first week after mixing. Really mellows out after a week and becomes much more enjoyable, but give it a few more days to really mature.