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2nd mix I'm sending in for August's mixers club entry.

Since I started DIY, I've been chasing my white whale which is cloning Adirondack Vapor's McKinley. I got their approval on reddit to try and clone it even! It's not so much a latte as chai tea with a tiny dash of cream/milk from what I can recall. Notes of tea, spice, and cream. CAP Chai Latte is definitively the chai that they use. I've tried to combine it with everything else -- Custards, the tried and true creams, bakeries, horchata, lemons, etc. I fell down the rabbit hole of making the mix perpetually more complex over time and I'm taking this chance to bring it back to basics and rebuild the mix from the ground up.

To me, McKinley is so thick its almost juicy and I often found myself almost choking on the thickness of the vape even at just 70/30. Something in there is giving it a really really dense mouthfeel, but its not eggy like a custard. So I'm opting to try TFA's FV Deluxe for its malty, acetyl goodness. FA Catalan Cream for its spice and citrus notes here, which compliment CAP Chai Tea's natural spice and citrus note as well. FA Honey is there to give it some of that sticky sweetness, and some of the slightly vegetal/floral properties that clover honey has. This was a last minute addition and may be on the chopping block for flavors to remove/replace in this recipe, but when I thought about that thick mouthfeel and mouth-coating sweetness of McKinley, Honey seemed to fit the bill perfectly and I don't know why I didn't consider it sooner.

This isn't the end result by any means, but hopefully it's a good jumping off point to work with after I get some feedback from the group!

Changes: Dropped FA Honey from 0.75 -> 0.25. The longer it steeped, the more the FA Honey ruled over the mix. Ended up being chai flavored honey. FA Honey at 0.75 is fucking awesome if you want a sticky goopy clover honey flavor, with the pollen-y mouthfeel to match! But not what I wanted in this mix.

Intended to send this in for my 2nd August's Mixers Club entry but will be sending something else. Still, It's a lazy ass mix that simply tastes good.

I went with the plainest tobaccos I could find. Sweet dessert baccos with fairly simple profiles and medium to light body on top of a malty hazelnut butterscotch pudding base.

Shout out to one of my favorite bands that I was blasting the entire time I was thinking this mix up. If you like groovy, doomy and fuzzy metal, check out Windhand! The sheer heaviness and droning fuzz of their music helped inspire me to create a thick and malty recipe to chain vape while listening to their stuff. The title of this mix is taken from one of their recently released songs.

A Cinnamon Sugar Poundcake mixed for August's Mixers Club.

FW Caramel Cinnamon Roll, JF Yellow Cake, and FLV Poundcake are my cake base here. A good fluffy cakiness that's heavy on the tongue, bolstered with TFA VC to add some egg and butter notes. TFA Bavarian cream keeps it wet and helps it vape smooth. TFA Brown Sugar as the primary sweetener and to add that vibe of the brown sugar marbling throughout the cake.

the theme was lazy, so I went uber lazy with the percentages but it's a pretty good mix! Warning: It's vapeable SNV then over the next few days the cinnamon gets really strong. After about a week it'll die down and the custard and creams will open up a bit.

EDIT: bumped up TFA VC, after a 3 week steep my original test wasn't nearly as thick and buttery as I intended.

A wet, ice cold melon & cucumber mix.

FLV Wild melon, TFA watermelon, and TFA Honeydew are the base here obviously. It's a nice well rounded melon foundation, some candy notes and some natural melon notes. It's tasty. CAP Cucumber is an excellent cucumber flavor with a lot of wetness as well. TFA Pear brings some graininess to the melons, although subtle. INW Cactus Lime is my new Swiss army knife. It brings that thick juiciness that we all love from cactus but the lime adds some zing and helps cover up that weird cactus note that I don't always want in a mix. Coolant and Sweetener to taste, and can even be omitted but I've been craving that powerful cooling and the sugar lips most commercial juices give.

With some guidance/flavor recommendations from CBV, this is my attempt to clone Marlboro Southern Cuts. Of course they're cigarettes so they smell a lot better than they actually taste, but that's fine as vaping tobaccos is often more like vaping the aromas of tobacco rather than actually smoking it. Plus these smell amazing. I've done 3 iterations so far and this is the closest, still subject to change/revised versions in the future. Yes I know it's a shitton of flavors, but it was for mixing experience, not so much for an ADV.

On-the-pack description: "Uniquely rich and smooth. Our master blenders begin with choice Burley, Virginia and Oriental tobaccos in creating the distinctly flavorful taste and warm aroma they call Southern Cut."

Personally, I get a really rich honey note when I first open the pack and give them a smell. Other comments on them often report hints of vanilla. When I smoked them, I distinctly remember a slight nutty bitterness on the aftertaste as well as an overall fairly dry profile.

INW Gold Ducat + Dark Fire: This is the honey note here. I remember when I first started getting into tobaccos I bought gold ducat because I liked the name, and when I did a sniff test on the bottle it immediately reminded me of that same scent I got from Southern Cuts. I'm leaning on it a bit here in this mix because of that, and Dark Fire brings some more of that honey note to really lift it out of Gold Ducat and put the fruit and cocoa/coffee notes I get from Ducat moreso in the background.

FLV Red Burley + FLV Virginia + INW TA Oriental: These make up the tobacco blend inside for the most part. Gold Ducat and Dark Fire are great vapes but they are fairly aromatic and I needed something to make up that medium-bodied tobacco leaf blend. I basically went straight off the pack's description here. My only gripe is that I get that hay flavor from Virginia here, but I don't want to throw off the accuracy of the mix and v2 is by far the closest I've gotten to legit Southern Cuts. If I am to make a change, I'll likely replace Virginia with FLV Kentucky Blend.

FLV Classic Cigarette + DNB: Bringing some ashyness to the party here. CBV mentioned to me that he gets some Burley notes from FLV CC and I had to agree with him. I think in combination with FLV Red Burley, the CC at a rather heavy handed 1% blends in fairly well but brings some of that crucial burning cigarette paper note. DNB is there to simply bolster that.

TFA Toasted Almond + Vanilla Tahity: As explained before, these are here simply as accents. I chose Toasted Almond primarily for that slight bitterness and dark toasty nut notes. It's pretty smooth in comparison to "nutty" tobaccos like 555 gold, which give me nothing but straight roasted peanuts so I opted to just use a specific almond flavor instead of another tobacco. Vanilla Tahity is an excellent vanilla for tobaccos because it's rather dry and also has some almond notes, but it's soft and sweet. These 2 can potentially be bumped up to 0.75% or even a full percent but I wanted to keep it subtle. The tobaccos are the star of the show here and I just want the occasional whiff of vanilla and almond.

Was watching VICE's "F*CK, THAT'S DELICIOUS" with Action Bronson. They were touring the borough of Queens, NEW YAWK and picked up these awesome Colombian snacks that looked amazing.

It's a crunchy waffle wafer layered with Dulce De Leche in between. There's probably better choice for the waffle cone out there but I'm limited to what I got. Still experimenting with this so subject to change in the future! If you mix it up, leave a comment and let's brainstorm!

INW Biscuit and TFA Graham Cracker Clear are going to be the crunchy, primarily for the texture and dryer mouthfeel + FW Waffle for some waffle flavor. Keeping it low so it's just barely noticeable and doesn't give too much maple flavor some folks get at higher percentages.

JF Dulce De Leche because it's fucking amazing, TFA Dairy Milk + FA Fresh Cream to soften it because I don't want a syrup, more of a creamy spread. Plus they help to smooth out the recipe in general so you're not vaping on straight dry biscuit with dulce de leche on the side.

A creamy caramel cigar fit for a filthy gunslinger. It changes a lot in the first week or so, give it some time.

JF RY4D - better than tfa. A bit more tobacco, cleaner vanilla and caramel.

FA caramel + butterscotch - takes a short steep but once they mature it turns into a goopy sticky caramel drizzle.

TFA FVC - It's malty, rich mouth coating vanilla but not as thick and eggy as custard. Definitely underrated, I put that shit on everything.

INW TA Cuban Cigar - straight no frills cigar wrapper leaf flavor. Light, leathery, no bull shit.

INW 555 + FLV Red Burley - primary filler tobaccos for the cigar, 555 adds that nuttiness and Red Burley melds similar notes with a dark, rich and earthy filler. Perfect intersection of profiles.

INW DNB - you're gonna have a cigar and not smoke it? Light that thang up, Blondie.


A golden Turkish tobacco, with undertones of classic Eurasian spice and subtle dried fruits

INW Gold For Pipe - Using this as the primary base, nice light blend of tobaccos with slight sweetness. Some notes from ELR mentioned citrus notes but it's pretty indiscernible for me personally, just adds to the slight fruity undertones here.

INW Gold Ducat (reformulated version) - Mellower than the old one IMO, but still a moderately dense body that adds some dimension to the vape, brings some smokiness and spice with nondescript fruit notes.

INW Tobacco Oriental & TA Oriental - Looking at these two as one unit. Using them pretty conservatively, but they bring some legit turkish tobacco flavor into the fold and really round out the sweet & spicy tobacco I'm aiming for.

Dry with a pretty hefty throat hit off the shake, but if you really like spice they're strongest the first week after mixing. Really mellows out after a week and becomes much more enjoyable, but give it a few more days to really mature.

User: amouthforwar Score: 4 Entered: about 3 years ago
Really good mix, light and well-balanced for the most part but I personally can't handle CAP Lemon Lime in a lot of mixes. It just tastes too much like flat sprite to me and I notice it above all over flavors for some reason. That said, the overall profile is tasty as hell and it is a really nice summer time vape for those of us who still like a bit of bakery but want something light enough to toot on all day. Solid 4/5 but I would personally find an alternative to CAP Lemon Lime (then again I've never tried the original)
User: amouthforwar Score: 4 Entered: about 3 years ago
I'm gunna agree with Loonicorn's review here in that the bready part of the profile is a bit more dry like a cupcake rather than a thick muffin. But overall the vape is great. I've discussed with ID1OT before that I think the use of cake batter is crucial to the gooeyness of a good muffin, so definitely hit that note right. But I think maybe a bit of custard or poundcake would have really helped solidify the recipe.
User: amouthforwar Score: 5 Entered: about 3 years ago
Couldn't wait the full 10 days to vape on it, but even after 5-6 days it's solid. Smooth as hell, simple to mix, and just tasty. For dessert tobacco lovers that don't mind the sweetness, this is a good mix to have on hand. Gold for Pipe + Gold Ducat is an excellent combination!
User: amouthforwar Score: 5 Entered: about 3 years ago
I'm gunna have to give you the 5 stars here dude, this is just a good fuckin' vape. Exactly as you described, it's a warm vanilla bourbon that blankets your mouth on the inhale and a beautifully subtle spearmint that lingers on the tip of your tongue on the exhale with a touch of that syrupy sweetness to meld it all together. Smells great in the bottle, tastes even better. I did go a little light on the sweeteners personally. Could do with a hint of lime IMO but this is an easy ADV for me. Thank you for sharing!
User: amouthforwar Score: 5 Entered: about 3 years ago
Just delicious. The milk base here is pretty perfect, adds the right amount of sugary silkiness to the cereal notes. Skillful mix, dying to try some of your other cereal recipes!
User: amouthforwar Score: 5 Entered: about 3 years ago
Knocked this one out of the f**king park dude. Suuuuper subtle vape but it's so damn smooth and none of the notes are lost even at such a small overall %. I tried this with a bit of FA Black Cherry in a second batch to mimic the profile a juice I saw zophievapes mention in her recent vids, at a tiny percent I don't get much of any medicinal cherry flavor as it's blanketed perfectly by the citrus and tea here. Killer recipe that's surprisingly flexible!
User: amouthforwar Score: 5 Entered: almost 3 years ago
Yup. one of the best damn mixed fruit vapes I've ever had. Hands down. I took your advice and cut down the coconut by maybe just 0.15% or so, still comes through very clearly in the mix though, and it's delicious. All the fruit blend together seamlessly, but that candy watermelon really shines backed up by that smooth coconut. Literally can't even find any offnote to nitpick, it's just a really enjoyable vape that I keep craving whenever I switch to something else.
User: amouthforwar Score: 4 Entered: about 3 years ago
Had to purchase pretty much everything in this recipe specifically to mix this up. God damn am I glad I did. Abuela's just so incredibly balanced in all aspects, it's an insanely smooth and flavorful vape. But something is clashing between the mango and tobaccos. It's sort of a musty soapy note that I can't quite shake and it ruins the ADV ability of the juice for me. First few drips/first tankful? delicious. 2nd or 3rd? straight must for me.
User: amouthforwar Score: 5 Entered: about 3 years ago
For the sake of getting a review in before my sub is gone, tested at 13 days. Nice smooth and full-flavored vape but even at 0.25% the coconut extra is sticking out like a sore thumb for me personally. Just feels a bit odd amongst the rest of the profile, and wondering the reason behind it's inclusion just out of curiosity. I'm sure to others' palettes it's not so strong though. Still, delicious tobacco profile with the hint of honey and bourbon is tasty as fuck. It's not overly sweet by any means but it hits that sweet tooth perfectly and nothing about the vape leaves me wanting something more.
User: amouthforwar Score: 5 Entered: about 3 years ago
As always CBV, I don't know how the hell you do it but it's delicious. In my experience, woody notes are hard to balance but you use the Oak Wood in here so perfectly. It compliments the earthiness and spice of the native incredibly well but also serves to sort of add some ever-so-slightly darker notes to a really authentic light and naturally sweet mix of tobaccos. Fantastic mix that I can vape for days on end.
User: amouthforwar Score: 5 Entered: about 3 years ago
Really clever, unique mix. FA Black Fire can be a little unwieldy because it's hickory-ish smoke notes are just so damn strong but it pairs so excellently with the Dark for Pipe and Kentucky Bourbon here. As with everything else I've tried from you so far CBV, it's smooth as hell for a dark, rich, ashy tobacco. Unlike anything I've had, and I can't put it down!
User: amouthforwar Score: 5 Entered: about 3 years ago
I really can't describe this mix any better than CBV's own description and the other reviews, but I can affirm that it's just a fucking awesome vape. For 3 flavors at barely 5% total, it's rich with vivid layers to it. It's dirty but not like a nasty half-smoked, resume-the-next-day cigarette. Black for Pipe has those signature dark & full tobacco notes balanced with the smoother medium body of the TA Cuban. When it all comes together I get this almost cologne-esque cigar aroma that just fits the bill so perfectly after reading up on the history of this name.
User: amouthforwar Score: 5 Entered: over 2 years ago
Planned to review this a long time ago, but this is a stellar mix. Your usage of Id1ot's strawberry trinity is fantastic here, and oddly enough in my experience heavy profiles like donuts and custards amplify strawberry more than any other, so you get a really upfront strawberry profile here that I personally haven't even been able to recreate in other mixes. None of them have tasted as sweet, gooey, and tart as this. The donut base is great, sometimes a bit doughy depending on the atty, but that's not unwelcome. Delicious stuff, I love it. My girlfriend loves it. So thank you :)
User: amouthforwar Score: 5 Entered: about 3 years ago
Slightly early review at 8 days, but first drip was tasty enough to see where the mix is headed. This was basically my intro to HS tobaccos. Color me impressed. HS Arabic and Turkish together give an AWESOME base blend of mellow flavorful tobacco, I do get a bit of spice from the Elder Captain but not as strong as I was expecting. It's tasteful. Same with the fig notes. It's not in my face but I can taste it and it all ties together well. Where I'm really digging this is the nuttiness. I do get the almond notes but it's not as overpoweringly nutty as many other "nutty" tobaccos are (555 gold just gives me straight peanuts for instance). It's a really delicious well thought out tobacco vape that's easy to vape for a long time. I'd probably enjoy it with a bit more Elder Captain for the spice notes. For me, I really like my turkish/arabic baccos nice and spicy.
User: amouthforwar Score: 4 Entered: about 3 years ago
Exceptional mix :) It's a unique one that's for sure, can sometimes be dangerous territory but this came out fantastic! It's light, creamy but not heavy, nice tart raspberry, subtle tea, and classic chai spice without being overpowering. Fantastic mix, although a bit too light for my tastes (at least SNV, I'm sure the steep will do it well) and personally would have preferred a more syrupy/jammy raspberry. Delicious nonetheless, and a batch with a touch of coolant (koolada + ws-23 @ 0.5% each) turned out fantastic for a nice iced raspberry chai. It is summertime afterall :)
User: amouthforwar Score: 5 Entered: over 2 years ago
Yep. It's good. Literally perfect if you're low on juice and need some custard in ya mouf
User: amouthforwar Score: 5 Entered: over 2 years ago
Thought I had left a review for this a while back. When I first mixed it I slaughtered a 30ml in 2-3 days (on a kayfun mind you, so pretty damn fast). Stuff's good. Like Ebc said, I don't get much licorice, maybe a touch of anise but the overall mix is pretty fruity in a really dark and smoky way, so instead of coming out like licorice I get a really nice anise mixed with almost black currant kinda raisin note. I'm terrible at describing what I experience, but it's a really good dark and rich vape with a touch of zing from the black jack and black for pipe, a nice semi-gooey sweetness from the gold for pipe, which also gives it a nice mouthfeel. the Garuda really ties it all together and brings it back to leafy tobacco territory. None of these flavorings are overly ashy in their own right, maybe black for pipe being the smokiest of the 4, but tied together they really bring that smoky casino vibe in full force. Fantastic work, dude. This and 3 cities will forever be in my MTL rotation.
User: amouthforwar Score: 4 Entered: almost 3 years ago
IMO I think it needs an actual nut flavor (some sort of hazelnut or almond would be good, I use PUR Vanilla Nut Brittle) and a little less AP. The version I made with 0.5% AP still gives me a salty fritos vibe underneath the nice creamy banana and biscuit/graham cracker. Beyond that, it's a good mix and I can't stop vaping it!
User: amouthforwar Score: 5 Entered: over 2 years ago
I personally like it more than Abuela. It's simple, but still offers a nice unique moreish twist (The Elder Captain I'm guessing). Love it!
User: amouthforwar Score: 5 Entered: about 3 years ago
Holy hell this is great for such a simple recipe. Just testing this right off the shake, you were completely right about the deceiving percentages. You did an excellent job using salted caramel and butter pecan to bolster those notes in the Tatanka. This really does taste like a bold, nutty, caramelized tobacco, right down to the chewiness aspect. It's delicious SNV, hopefully I can leave it alone long enough to see how it ages but I know this is a good mix right off the bat. Great work!
User: amouthforwar Score: 5 Entered: about 3 years ago
Super good mix!!! The banana cream is delicious here, super soft blanketing banana over a sweet graham crust that really punches through at the end of the vape. I made a 60ml of this and blew threw it in 2 days dude. Delicious.
User: amouthforwar Score: 5 Entered: about 3 years ago
I didn't even bother with a tester. I knew this mix was going to be fire and made a 120ml off the bat. No qualms at all. Excellent custard base, great usage of the new FA Juicy Strawberry. A lot of strawberry mixes I can't taste but I think the thickness of the custard base really lets it shine here and it's delicious. The biscuit does have a nice snap at the end of the vape too, the crunch is definitely there. Definitely an ADV now.
User: amouthforwar Score: 2 Entered: about 3 years ago
Honestly man, this is just way too much EM. It mutes the shit out of the mix for me. 2% cotton candy seems insane IMO, on top of how light and fickle Strawberry ripe already is, I just didn't get any flavor whatsoever out of the juice. If you want a denser strawberry flavor, I'd suggest JF Sweet Strawberry or FA Red Touch instead of Strawberry Ripe, and replace EM/Cotton Candy with a bit of INW Cactus or INW Cactus Lime to add some juiciness, maybe a sucralose/stevia based sweetener like FW sweetener or CAP super sweet instead of ethyl maltol. I was in a bit of a pinch and just wanted some strawberries, but on a triple core clapton in a hadaly at 40w or massive series build in a kennedy 25 at 100w I barely tasted any strawberry at all. If it works for you, I can't knock it! But I think there's ways to improve upon this profile.
User: amouthforwar Score: 5 Entered: over 2 years ago
Tested at day 1 and day 7 so far, great vape regardless of the steep time. tobaccos definitely get richer as it ages. I don't get much nuttiness but the tobacco mix here is solid as hell, subtly sweet, nice rich leafyness from the burley, hint of spicy tobacco from the Native and dried fruits underneath it all. Great smooth mix. Coming back to it after the recommended steep time yields something incredible. It's a deliciously dry cigarish vape with a hint of coffee or cocoa and some really subtle dark fruitiness from the am4a. Fantastic job!
User: amouthforwar Score: 5 Entered: about 3 years ago
It's a delicious vape! I've let it steep for about 3.5 weeks before cracking it open and the custards are super delicious paired together. Nice sweet caramel and butter pecan top notes I just can't get enough of, and a good pie crust undertone. Maybe it was just the batch I got but my TFA Pie Crust does give me an odd burnt/overly toasted flavor but it's not enough to detract from the rest of the mix here. 5/5!
User: amouthforwar Score: 5 Entered: about 3 years ago
Super simple, stellar vape. INW grape was a great choice and I think is probably the swiss army knife of grapes IMO. Usage of Fuji and Cactus are at the perfect amounts to add that juiciness and a bit of snap to the grape. Didn't notice any flavor from the fresh cream, but it did add a nice silky smooth note to the whole thing. Can't stop vaping this mix! Perfect for summer.
User: amouthforwar Score: 5 Entered: over 2 years ago
I'm piggy-backing off @HarvestMoon here, SNV is fucking phenomenal. Insanely smooth and lush. I literally said "holy shit" before I could even exhale my first puff of this stuff. Gotta give some credit to the folks who made the retail juice for designing an excellent profile, but for a DIY remix you hit this one out of the ballpark and then some @Mathematical. Stellar mix here, can't wait to see how it steeps, if it lasts that long :) Would love to see you do a mix with mostly the same components but with the nectarine. Bet it would be awesome if you could find the right nectarine concentrate to fit, but I trust your judgment after this one.
User: amouthforwar Score: 5 Entered: about 3 years ago
ONE CAVEAT HERE: I ran out of FW bb in the middle of making this but was still around 4-5%, just covered it with a tiiiiny bit more TFA bb extra and it came out great. This is an amazing SNV and I'm excited to see how it ages for the recommended steep time. I appreciate that it's all stuff most folks would have, not exotic branded concentrates. Nice plump blueberry base with no weirdness, little zing and emulsification from the dragonfruit, blended with a really nice malty cream base. Served up ICE COLD, just the way I was hoping. Fantastic summertime mix, knocked it out of the park here.
User: amouthforwar Score: 4 Entered: about 3 years ago
We've already talked elsewhere about how I don't really vibe with peanut butters much, but figured I owed you a review on the recipe. This is the first PB vape I could actually taste (beyond Apothecary's Elixir 08) and it's fantastic. Creamy, sweet, with a slight graininess to remind you its peanut butter. That bourbon note was a nice touch and adds a neat nuance to the flavor and some enjoyable warmth. Still not a huge fan of PBs overall, but I've had this loaded up in my billow for the past week and keep coming back to it. Nice job!
User: amouthforwar Score: 5 Entered: about 3 years ago
I don't have OOO CMU, so i used a touch of FA Fresh Cream as it's the closest milky, plain cream I've got. This is a great mix with a very unique flavor to it. Nice and tart berry blended with a tried and true VBIC. Ice cold, just how I like it. I've not yet vaped anything where blackcurrant was the main note so this threw me for a bit of a loop but it is delicious and I'm craving more!
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