I DIDN’T USE FA CARAMEL
I used Solub Arome Sweet Caramel which isn't on ATF but I think FA caramel or FW salted caramel will both work as a substitute at the same %
Really happy with this as a complete package with all of the layers present that make up a good pie.
I tried so many different things to get the crust right but nothing was strong enough to show through until I tried INW biscuit with a touch of FLV caramel to darken it.
There aren’t many good caramels out there but I took some advice and used a combo of WF caramel butter and Solub Arome to get that sticky thick caramel I was after
Flapper pie provides the background profile with Vanilla custard 2 for that nice thick velvety filling
And some nice whipped cream to top it all off
I used SS to sweeten instead of FW sweetener as it helped to make the caramel pop a bit more
It definitely needs a steep unfortunately. It needs a good week for everything to shine through, especially for the caramel and cream but you can get an idea of the profile after a couple of days
Tested on a single coil flavour RDA (Hussar RDA V2) with an alien at 0.24 ohms
The Cheesecake/Ice Cream layer is nice and thick, heavy and rich which lingers on your tong for a long time after each draw. The biscuit crust backs it up very nicely and encapsulating the whole thing is the satisfying and dark RY4
In this day and age the amount of flavouring might seem a lot but but each one is here for a reason and the recipe (for my pallet) really works. I took some inspiration from Brian Rileys “Cannoli Be One Rmx” and “John Nathan’s Pesonal RY4” which I really love. These recipes push the levels of flavouring to a luxurious level which I really enjoy
The contrast between the RY4 and the creams is so stark that IMO it needed a lot of blending to bring them together to smooth out the hard edge of the RY4 and make it work with the Ice Cream/cheesecake. All of the different elements in this recipe work together to achieve this
I’m the early days of its creation I started out with something very different so I made some drastic changes and Suddenly hit on something which made me jump up and down with excitement. After that I made many variations on this until I went full circle and came right back to first “good version” and found with a few small tweaks it really needed nothing more. I experience a full bodied experience with a beginning, body and finish with a dense mouth feel
I put the steep at 10 days which it absolutely needs, before that it is watery and flat but after 10 days the transformation is night and day. It gets suuuuper thick, heavy and full with a really prominent and pleasing mouth feel. Also the RY4 blends and mellows into its true form. It really is surprising how much it changes in this time so if you mix it please don’t get disheartened before giving it the full amount of time
To test I used a Single coil flavour RDA (Hussar RDA 2.0) with a tri core alien on a mech squonker at 0.24 ohms
Absolutely in love with this recipe
Equal parts Graham crackers and thick, rich custard
The Graham crackers take a couple of days to come through but the custard takes a full two weeks to mature. It’s well worth the wait though as the custard just laps up the side of the dark crunchy crackers with it’s sweet luxuriousness.
The custard is based around FA custard prem with the Bavarian cream and Creme Brulee to back it up and the FW Graham Cracker is the main cracker note with the butter and brown sugar (FLV Caramel) to back that up
I’m so happy I made this as it's not only become my ADV but my favourite liquid. I can’t stop vaping it
Edit, I’ve cranked the caramel up to 1% as I forgot that that’s how high I had it originally and it’s better that way. It just adds a touch more darkness which makes all the difference
Thanks to all the people who have mixed it