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(JF) RY4 Double


By: Jungle Flavors (JF) - Buy Direct

Used in 326 recipes at an average of 3.014%.

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29 DIY E-Liquid Recipes found


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Inspiration: Black Phillip by RuntDastardly.

This is Black Phillip's softer, more gentle, younger brother. The shift to fall weather, the Halloween season, and the arrival of FLV Smoked Butterscotch necessitated the creation of this remix.

This is a smoky, fall custard. In place of FA Black Fire, I used the much more forgiving FLV Smoked Butterscotch. The result is a butterscotch custard kissed by tobacco and smoke. Works as a SNV, but give it a few days and the flavors really come together. Enjoy.

My nuts in your coffee RY4.

I wanted a nutty sweet dessert type RY4 that was similar to my PB Cardinal mix that didn't blacken coils so quickly. I love Holy Holy Grail and FLV tobaccos but they kill coils and cotton pretty quickly.

JF RY4 Double is a great base to build upon. It's very caramel/vanilla forward and just needs a boost here and there. I chose to boost the tobacoo with INW Vanilla for Pipe which is a nice tobacco forward flavor that pushes the tobacco notes a bit more to the front. It won't show up in the mix for about a week, but when it does this mix starts to shine.

FA Caramel and INW Shisha Vanilla are here to boost those accent notes in the VFP and RY4D a bit more forward and make the mix sweeter with more depth of vanilla/caramel. These 2 bring help without bringing a ton of baggage or off notes and work with the tobaccos instead of clashing with them.

FLV Peanut Butter was chosen for the nut notes because it doesn't fade as much and we don't really need a perfect peanut butter here. We just want the nutty notes and pyrazines that it has to offer. I added FW Hazelnut for it's creaminess. It helps keep the PB from being dry and adds some creaminess to the vanilla/caramel notes and rounds out the nutty profile nicely.

I wanted a coffee accent because Holy Holy Grail RY4 has some coffee notes that I love. Coffee flavors are all lacking in my opinion and I felt that this choice was one that would make or break this mix. I chose SC Cappuccino because it adds a bit to the creaminess of the hazelnut and stays away from that burnt popcorn note if you keep it low. Its a relatively dark concentrate, but it's still kind to coils/cotton. Some may be sensitive to the burnt popcorn off note and I would recommend adjusting this ingredient to your liking if you want more/less.

I spent a lot of time balancing this recipe and checking it after a steep. This is, of course, for my palate. If you find that yours is different feel free to tinker with the percentages a bit. This won't need sweetener. The chosen concentrates do all the sweetening it needs. If you mix this up please leave a review or some feedback. All opinions are welcome!

This is good after about a 7 day steep. It's phenomenal after a month though

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DFS is Euro Flavor Orient Tobacco Black ATF doesn’t seem to have any of the Euro Flavor stuff listed, but a whole lot of the DIYFS tobaccos have mysteriously similar names. Hmmm...

Anywho, this is a tobacco and cedar forward RY4 recipe. It ain’t the kind of RY4 that’s going to remind you of grandma’s cookies or anything like that.

EF Orient Tobacco Black: Strong cedar note. Like when you open an old cedar chest and breathe in that strong, musty cedar scent. It’s a taste I never realized I was missing in DIY until I got some of the Euro Flavor tobaccos.

Black Fire: Why not burn that cedar a little bit? Give it some bite.

Black for Pipe: You know I just gotsta throw it in there to up the tobacco and bring a less intense smokiness to it than Black Fire brings.

RY4 Double: Pairs well with a stronger tobacco to mellow things out a little, but doesn’t lose the bite. Using the JF here to get away with a shorter steep time, and also because it’s just a bit cleaner and works better with real tobaccos. Doesn’t seem as sweet to me.

Vanilla Ruyan Custard: Has a bit of bite of its own with some nice vanilla notes. Good body as well.

This one seems to be good to go fairly quickly. After about three days the Black Fire and Cedar mellow out a considerable amount, and it gets smoother from there.

Quick recipe drop before school this morning . . . caramel-pistachio pudding RY4.

FW Salted Caramel and TFA Pistachio bring the nutty, caramel top notes that intertwine with the Jungle Flavors RY4 Double. It's pretty amazing how much the Salted Caramel stands out against the rest of the flavors.

VT Pudding Base brings more of a spongey cake type of pudding note (typical of what the Brits refer to as a pudding). This is made more creamy and luscious by the pairing with FLV Vanilla Pudding, which is what is more commonly considered pudding in the States. The addition of DIYFS Holy Vanilla boosts the FLV Vanilla Pudding's smooth, creamy pudding.

I was not a fan of this as a SNV, but, after letting it sit for 5 days, I came back to it and found it to be quite tasty. As per usual, mixed it 60vg/40pg.

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As close to a SNV RY4 custard as I can get. Ham-handed with percentages but it is meant for RTA use (billow 2.5 personally).

FLV Tatanka is REALLY good SNV, sort of a sweet chewy leathery quality to it along with some honey-ish sweetness. I love this stuff. FLV Connecticut Shade is added to just darken it up a bit, bringing a nice coffee/cocoa note. JF RY4 Double is a solid base to work around for the caramel/molasses notes but it's not as monotone as TFA and IMO works well at accenting other dessert baccos.

INW Custard because it doesn't require much steeping and a bit of TFA Bavarian Cream to smooth out some edges.

EDIT: halved RY4D, dropped Tatanka by 0.5%, switched FLV Red Burley for Connecticut Shade and upped to 1.5%. Original mix developed a very strong raisin note after a month steep, presumably from both the tatanka and ry4d (both have a bit of a fruity note to me), which were pretty high strength. In retrospect, I wanted to keep the flavor of Tatanka but just wanted that ry4 there to emulsify everything, so modifications have been made to achieve that.

I've gone through about 40mL of this over the last week or so. Again, I'm just riffing on Fear's Cardinal . . . instead, here I'm trying to build it from similar components (some of which I used because I accidentally ordered 60mL of Digestive Biscuit from Chef's a while back and have been itching to use it something). I tried to create a ramped up RY4 similar to Holy Grail . . .then added some more tobacco. I used JF RY4 Double instead of TFA RY4 Double . . . VT Coffee Milk Froth instead of DIYFS Cafe Napoleon . . . butterscotch instead of caramel . . . threw some extra vanilla, graham crackers, and biscuits at her to round her out.

What I got was a smooth ADV worthy RY4 . . . from that first cup of joe to some late night sips . . . this recipe can carry you through. She's not the Cardinal . . . but she is classy on the outside and downright filthy on the inside. Enjoy!

A creamy caramel cigar fit for a filthy gunslinger. It changes a lot in the first week or so, give it some time.

JF RY4D - better than tfa. A bit more tobacco, cleaner vanilla and caramel.

FA caramel + butterscotch - takes a short steep but once they mature it turns into a goopy sticky caramel drizzle.

TFA FVC - It's malty, rich mouth coating vanilla but not as thick and eggy as custard. Definitely underrated, I put that shit on everything.

INW TA Cuban Cigar - straight no frills cigar wrapper leaf flavor. Light, leathery, no bull shit.

INW 555 + FLV Red Burley - primary filler tobaccos for the cigar, 555 adds that nuttiness and Red Burley melds similar notes with a dark, rich and earthy filler. Perfect intersection of profiles.

INW DNB - you're gonna have a cigar and not smoke it? Light that thang up, Blondie.

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Simple 3, 2, 1 mix of an RY4. You might ask, "Why would you make this if you've already got Holy Holy Grail RY4?" My answer is simple. Because Cardinal . . . that's why. Also, I've been neglecting JF RY4 Double and FLV Milk and Honey and wanted to try my hand at simplicity. At only 6% this is a surprisingly bold RY4 . . . extremely thick and rich. Mixed it up last night (60vg/40pg) . . . filled up the Savour with it this morning. It goes great with coffee.

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almond caramel cream.

wf vanilla ruyan custard- this flavor is a workhorse. i honestly prefer it solo around 6-7%, but it pairs great with ry4s and other creams. it's primarily a vanilla, secondarily a texture/mouthfeel booster- it reminds me of what inw's creme brulee would be if it didn't get weird over 0.5%- it's got such a full body to it. oddly- it's nothing like cap's VC1, largely because it's vapable immediately and doesn't seem to change much with a steep. this is the base flavor in this recipe because it's a solid body foundation but it doesn't bully the top notes.

inw custard- what can i say about this flavor that hasn't already been said. it's great, again doesn't require much steeping, and provides lovely body. helps fill out the ruyan custard here and helps the vanilla not be so dominant.

jf's ry4- probably the best ry4 out there. less steeping, more depth of flavor. mostly a warm caramel note.

(top notes) inw's marzipan & fa's almond- this combo is sweet almond bliss. that twangy cherry note from the marzipan fades after 12-24 hours, hence the teensy steep time. they mesh effortlessly with the custards and caramel ry4- it's a delightful combo.

side note/how's it vape, mahfucka?: this juice is super similar to those standard ry4/custard/nut combo recipes we all love: dillinger's dairy, pistachio ry4, gentleman's custard- if that profile is appealing to you, you'll love this one. the difference here is that this recipe is ready to vape almost immediately. i'm not yanking yer chain. honestly most of the wonder flavors i've tried have that in common, their inclusion in a recipe, or even just solo; they are damn near shake & vapable. i'm not unaware of the discourse re: their potential sugar content, or whatever- i just don't care. shrug

Full-bodied, ashy tobacco with a slight hint of caramel and vanilla. Very dry.

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