(JF) RY4 Double

By: Jungle Flavors (JF) - Buy Direct

Used in 495 recipes at an average of 3.098%.


42 DIY E-Liquid Recipes found

TPAs VC2 at 4% is a nice custard with dark vanilla notes and just thick enough to leave some headroom for the tobacco base to come through
JF RY4D adds the well known smoky caramel note to the mix backed up with FLV Sweet&Smokey to give you a more true tobacco note.

I enjoy this after a 24hr steep but i would recommend a 7day steep for the whole thing to blend together

Tested on a citadel SFC 0.5Ω @ 35 Watts

A flavorful cinnamon desert but oaky tobacco mix.

Steep to taste, as I rarely do. Steep increases the oakiness more.


Working off the first BETA release, the common consensus was that that introduction of the deeper, darker, more "matured" flavor, hindered the great aspects of the original Obsidian. The French Pipe seemed to be the biggest issue, especially after steeping. I needed to find a way to bridge the sweeter cookie notes to the darker tobacco, while keeping that luxurious RY4 finish. After a lot of tweaking, I found that replacing the Butterscotch with Smoked Butterscotch, and French Pipe for Tatanka - provides that case.

I'm curious as to your notes on this and would love any feedback. I still want "darker" undertones, I want smokier flavor, and I may even add some ash. But I think this is a much better improvement over the first BETA.

Check out the original Obsidian here:

Check out the first version of Obsidian Gold Label here:

A deliciously bright,rich French vanilla custard with undertones of brown sugar,caramel and tobacco. Definitely an ADV and if you enjoy your vape on the sweeter side feel free to add 0.25% - 0.5% cap super sweet. I’m usually a sucker for a sweet vape but truth be told I've been vaping this as is and have been enjoying it immensely. If your Into your tobacco/RY4/custards you might wanna mix this one up as it’s extremely delicious and 100% a wintery vape. 😍 if you mix this up please leave feedback for other mixers to check out. Stay safe guys and gals. 💙

A nice, sweet and smooth peanut buttery / nutty Ry4 tobacco vape.


This is my first try at an RY4 recipe.

JF RY4 Double wasn’t quite where I wanted it to be on the Vanilla side so the TFA Vanilla Swirl and WF Vanilla Cream Extra bolstered that up a bit.

I love SoHo Time and what FA Meringue brought with it so I paired the Meringue with the Swirl for added depth and Flavor.

CAP Cinnamon Danish Swirl will turn this into something comparable to a French toast at around a week and a half. My original notes had FLV Rich Cinnamon as the cinnamon layer, but CDS definitely fits better here.

This can also be made with TFA’s RY4 Double at a 1:1 ratio.


Been trying ever since I ran out of that holy grail V1 to find some sort of suitable replacement to the deliciousness that is Cardinal. I've tried all sorts of things and quite literally all of them found themselves to be washing the pipes down my kitchen sink.

Got a new shipment in a few days ago and as I was single testing JF RY4 double found it great and just thought fuck it, why not throw a drop or two of red Burley in there and see what happens.

What happened is it was fucking delicious. I've yet to make it past day two of a steep, but even on day 2 it's just a superb desert tobacco vape .

To say it's better than Cardinal would be some straight sacrilege, but to me at least it's comparable. A different vape, but satisfying and ticks all my boxes. And, as these concentrated aren't going anywhere soon, hopefully... Something we can all enjoy for many years to come.

Cheers !

A caramel cheesecake recipe with hints of light tobacco and cream don't hate until you try it.. I left out capella super sweet but you can add whatever sweetener you want testing on the Shenray Hadley clone Ni80 Alien coil.

An ooey, gooey caramel RY4. Standard, no fluff. Made on Live Mixing

A dessert tobacco mix,which i really enjoy vaping it in my rda's.Sweetener is optional,but not at all necessary

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