Used in 315 recipes at an average of 1.814%.
DFS is Euro Flavor Orient Tobacco Black ATF doesn’t seem to have any of the Euro Flavor stuff listed, but a whole lot of the DIYFS tobaccos have mysteriously similar names. Hmmm...
Anywho, this is a tobacco and cedar forward RY4 recipe. It ain’t the kind of RY4 that’s going to remind you of grandma’s cookies or anything like that.
EF Orient Tobacco Black: Strong cedar note. Like when you open an old cedar chest and breathe in that strong, musty cedar scent. It’s a taste I never realized I was missing in DIY until I got some of the Euro Flavor tobaccos.
Black Fire: Why not burn that cedar a little bit? Give it some bite.
Black for Pipe: You know I just gotsta throw it in there to up the tobacco and bring a less intense smokiness to it than Black Fire brings.
RY4 Double: Pairs well with a stronger tobacco to mellow things out a little, but doesn’t lose the bite. Using the JF here to get away with a shorter steep time, and also because it’s just a bit cleaner and works better with real tobaccos. Doesn’t seem as sweet to me.
Vanilla Ruyan Custard: Has a bit of bite of its own with some nice vanilla notes. Good body as well.
This one seems to be good to go fairly quickly. After about three days the Black Fire and Cedar mellow out a considerable amount, and it gets smoother from there.
Black Jack Tobacco: Reminds me a lot of Gold Ducat. A sort of smoky Black Cavendish vibe, but instead of a honey sweetness like Gold Ducat, it’s got a hint of licorice. It’s not an offensive amount of licorice. I really don’t care for anise or black licorice, but I’m ok with the amount in this one.
Black for Pipe: If you don’t have it or already know about it, you’re messing up. Great smoky tobacco with some dark fruit subtleties and a tobacco flavor that goes down really smooth. Must have in my opinion.
Gold for Pipe: basically honey smoke. That’s the best way I can describe it. I love it with Gold Ducat, and it’s just as magical with Black Jack.
Tobacco Absolute Garuda: Pretty much it’s just plain ol’ Tobacco leaf. Some mild sweetness, and can give just a little hint of ash when pushed to the 1.5% range- which is what I did here :)
Smoky tobacco with dark berries.
The original idea was to use ingredients with “black” in the name (hence the name), and to try to boost the dark berry notes in Black for Pipe. I think I succeeded with the latter, but the former didn’t quite work out.
The first problem with the “Black” idea was TFA Blackberry. Too floral. Same problem with INW Blackcurrant. Wasn’t really feeling it with Black Cherry for Pipe or INW Black Jack either. So to get the main idea to work, I had to pretty much scrap the Blacks.
For the tobacco base I ended up going with my Brigade 2506 recipe because that pretty much makes Black for Pipe perfect to me. The berries and Connecticut Shade came together kind of by accident. I asked for some ideas on diy_ejuice and @ID10-T suggested FLV Açaí, and mentioned some cocoa notes. I thought that might be interesting with some FLV Connecticut Shade. I must have read a flavor review for Boysenberry before I went to BCF, because I ended up buying FLV Boysenberry instead of the Açaí. I didn’t realize my mistake until I mixed it up and it tasted pretty good, so I went to thank Dave for the suggestion. Then I saw that he said Açaí. I figured I’d better get that one to see if it’s even better, and it was pretty good too. I knew then that I had to at least try it with both, and by golly it was perfect.
I have been really digging it in a MTL tank. Those berries are up front on the inhale and then the smoky perfection of Black for Pipe comes in on the back end.
As per usual, found myself in a jam. I needed tobacco to add to In a Godda Da Vida. I mean, it's sooo good, but it was a little too sharp on my tongue for me to finish it off, and I made a huge batch. I needed a tobacco to add to it. And since I was sitting in discord, and saw he was online, I thought, "Who better to ask than the man himself?"
Took him all of like 30 seconds to look at my list of flavors and pull this out.
Was brill off the shake, but like all tobaccos, works best after at least 2 weeks, and just keeps getting better. Best part? So far, it seems to go with everything. I've added it to the following: Vanilla Butter Pecan Ice Cream, Tide Pod Challengeand the fabled Mustard Milk. It flat works. Hence:
Fear's Red Hot Tobacco Sauce.
I put that **** on everything. (Just copying the tagline from the ad, folks!)
This one's great on it's own for tobacco lovers, with it's dark pipe tobacco with that wonderful punch of Virginia, but it's also good for when you have too much of a juice, and it needs something else to finish it off. Also great for a test bed for when you're going "Would this work as a tobacco?"
Thanks go to Fear for pulling this magic l'il number from wherever, and for letting me share the joy with everyone else.
A Virginia Perique Blend with Burley and a hint of oak.
Recipe created for /r/mixersclub. Become a member today :)
Whenever I’m setting out to do a plain tobacco recipe, I’ll usually have the general idea in my mind, and search through tobacco reviews to kind of fill in all the blanks. For this month’s submission, I googled “Irish Tobacco” and hit up this page for Peterson Irish Oak. Tobaccoreviews.com is a really great source for inspiration because people that take the time to write reviews for Pipe tobaccos usually use some great descriptions for what they’re tasting, and the reviews are sorted by “most helpful.” So you usually get some ConcreteRiver level reviews at the top.
I’ll read the top three or four reviews and start thinking of flavors that fit the description.
A freshly opened tin reveals tangy woody and dry grass aromas with an upfront sweetness and background pepper note.
So right off the bat I’m thinking FA Oak Wood (woody), INW TA Virginia (grass), INW TA Garuda (sweetness), and INW Black for Pipe and FA Black Pepper (pepper.)
The flavour builds down the bowl, and mid-bowl the smoke transforms into more nutty and wood-like flavours. Overall the flavour is dominated by Virignia and Burley, but it is very much a unique blend (and I wouldn't say this is a classic Va-Per). The perique is detectable and adds spice but the taste overall is dry-nuttier...
Alright, so we are going to need a nutty Burley and probably give that Virginia a little boost. I’ve been messing around lately with mixing HS No. 5 with FLV Red Burley to create a toasted, nutty Burley. So that’ll get added to the list. FLV Virginia is a nice sweet Virginia that will give a bit more depth to the TA Virginia (in my submission to mixersclub I used INW Sunset Virginia, which I’m really liking, but my first version that used FLV Virginia is really good, and it’s a more common flavor.) I’m also thinking the Black for Pipe/Pepper should be quite low, so it doesn’t overpower the Virginia and burley.
All this is from the first review, and I’ve mostly got it figured out. The reviews after I will start playing around with the ratios and maybe seeing if someone got something completely different that I maybe should consider adding.
If there is burley present, it's blended harmoniously as I don't pick it up as a dominant or distinct flavor.
Uh oh, is there a strong Burley note or not?! Should I drop it? Better read more. Scroll through and see “nutty” mentioned a couple more times and feel safe to keep it in there. There’s really only so much you can get from a few reviews, and eventually you’ll have to start making decisions based on how you want the mix to taste. I’ve been in a Burley mood lately, so my Irish Oak is gonna have some gosh darn nutty Burley.
Anyways, figured I’d throw out a little bit of my mixing technique when it comes to trying to create a real tobacco profile. In case anyone ever wants to give it a whirl.
HS Virginia and INW Virginia are both fairly similar to FLV Virginia. INW I would keep the 1.5%, HS I would go 2-2.5%. INW Sunset Virginia at 2% is also pretty nice, and has a bit of a nutty flavor to it that compliments the Burley.
If you don’t have FA Black Pepper, you can try FA Perique Black at .15-.2%. Or bump the Black for Pipe up to .8% and add .15% FLV Heat.
If you don’t have HS No. 5, get it. In the meantime, turn that Red Burley up to 1.3%.
I really liked TPA RY4 Double solo when I got it, but it got boring quick. Obviously not enough tobacco, top heavy, and just kind of flat. I was working on another variation with DFS Holy Holy Grail, but that needs to be something else completely. I tried a few existing recipes that were using additional tobacco to bolster RY4Ds, but they were still lacking in my opinion. INW Dark for Pipe was an obvious choice, and is a perfect match with RY4D. I really like this stuff fresh just because of how potent Dark for Pipe is, but after 3 weeks everything has come together and blended wonderfully. If you want an RY4 that has some serious punch this is what you are looking for.
INW Classic for pipe Dark:
This stuff I awesome. Dark, earthy, skunky tobacco with some dark fruit and a little cacao. It's an absolutely perfect match with RY4D, and the cigar / fruit / cacao make this a perfect base for a stanky RY4.
INW Classic for pipe Black:
A legit full bodied, smoky tobacco to add a bit more depth and authenticity to the Dark.
TPA RY4 Double:
Not much that needs to be said about this. A really fantastic RY4, I get loads of smooth caramel, and almost no vanilla or tobacco. Which is great because I really don't like vanilla. This started high, but after a couple variations it ended up at 4%. At first it really stands out, but after some time it comes together with Dark and they blend perfectly.
FA Oak Wood:
This was the perfect way to add a little more body while also adding some wood and a little more sweetness that I wanted but wasn't quite getting after dropping the RY4D to where it is. Also doesn't add any additional gunkyness while bringing a little more authenticity to the tobacco base.
Oriental tobacco cured in the smoke houses of Cyprus.
This came about because I have been disappointed with every flavor concentrate called “Latakia.” I get zero hints of anything remotely smoky in any of them. FA Black Fire on it’s own is, in my opinion, closer to Latakia than anything that claims to be Latakia.
I’ve got some Peter Stokkebye Black Latakia in a jar that was left over from making an NET, and I used the smell of that for the inspiration here. I’d take a big ol’ sniff of that stuff, then taste this, and I was very surprised at just how close it was.
Latakia is typically used for blending Pipe tobaccos, but I wanted to create something that would be true to taste, but also not so overwhelming that it couldn’t be enjoyed on its own. But I also wanted to keep everything low enough that something could be built around this without getting some crazy high percentages. So this could either be a stand alone recipe, or you could make a Latakia stone from it and throw it in with some Virginias, Cavendish, or some more Turkish Orientals to create your own English Blend. On its own, it’s not really an ADV for me, but it’s a nice way to end the day with some strong, smoky tobacco.
If you’ve got INW Tobacco Absolute Oriental, you can sub that for the regular INW Oriental, but bring it down to .8-1%.
Dessert Tobacco asf
When I mixed this, I wasn’t sure if it would be good..at all. Gang, I was wrong.
This tastes about like a mouthful of Bavarian cream-filled donut (drizzled with some caramel maybe) while taking a puff off of some sweet pipe tobacco.
The Zeppola slips in upfront, the flaky icing and pastry come in first, followed by the creams which are topped with the spicey notes from the tobaccos.
I finally got all the things I needed to mix up Fear’s Abuela, and thought it was great. Started thinking about how I could personalize it a little to suit me a little better. Decided I might try a little remix to make it more of a mango pipe tobacco. I happened to be vaping it alongside my Turkish for Pipe, and I decided to do a bit of a mash-up.
So this is like a Turkish and Virginia Pipe Blend with some mango on top.
2 months after I shared this I realized my fat fingers selected the wrong Oriental from the drop down. If you used the normal INW Oriental, you might be ok. If you got the Classic Oriental, my apologies. It should be FLV Oriental.
This is a tough one for me, as I am by no means a tobacco connoisseur, but this concentrate blows me away with its authenticity! Back when I smoked a pipe and rolled cigarettes with pipe tobacco, one of my favorite tobaccos was this nordic spiced blend, a dark black tobacco with various spices and a touch of sweetness. This reminds me exactly of smoking that tobacco. If I were blindfolded and were smoking that tobacco out of a pipe and vaping this side-by-side, I feel I'd have a very difficult time telling the two apart. You get this smokey quality from it that is very pleasing and reminiscent of smoking pipe tobacco, but not a sort of ashy, overpowering, super dry smokiness. The tobacco itself is a deep, dark tobacco, with subtle spices, and a touch of sweetness from the smoked-plum. I don't get any of that "plastic" or "barber-shop-powder" flavor I get from a lot of tobaccos... it just tastes like a f***in delicious dark pipe tobacco. They nailed it with this one, and I get the feeling their whole "for pipe" line is going to have very similar qualities about it