Flavor Profile: bakery dessert
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This is a collaborative creation by DEVELOPED: Skiddlz, AlfredPudding, Max Savage, Graham, folkart, and guest Jerry.
This recipe is our representation of a Apple Fritter without using CAP Cinnamon Danish Swirl. Full Development Notes on DEVELOPED Ep. 6 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6IA-bWr8tM
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This is a blackberry & blackcurrant marshmallow cream on top of a ginger graham crust.
The FLV Boysenberry isn't really used for its flavor but to jam up the berries and make them extra syrupy. I really wanted to use VTA Shisha Blackcurrant. It is easily my favorite standalone currant flavor, but it is pretty potent and tends to want to take over a mix which is why I used it really low. The CAP Gingerbread & CAP Graham is an idea I stole from @ID10-T he used it in his recipe https://alltheflavors.com/recipes/48608#titanic_by_id10_t. The CAP Whipped Marshmallow I used by mistake. I wanted to use CAP Vanilla Whipped Cream, but grabbed the Whipped Marsh by mistake and didn't notice it until after I mixed it, but it worked out pretty well.
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A little while back I got myself trapped in another Boba’s Bounty hole. It was really a dark place to be because I spent so much time trying to clone a juice I didn’t even like. So to get me out of that insane hole, I decided to take that profile, and do it how I would do it. And, more importantly, make something that I would actually like. That’s what this is.
It’s a very middle of the road recipe. No real top notes to wear down your tongue. Not too sweet. Very full flavor. There’s a dessert/bakery aspect, obviously, but there’s also some decent smoky tobacco notes. It walks the line between several different things. It has been a bit of a challenge for me to let it steep long enough to see the places it goes. Right after mixing, the Gold Ducat was pretty apparent. It had a stronger smoky vibe. After about a week the graham cracker, Butter Pecan, and Red Dates started to take over a bit more. It’s been a while since I’ve been excited about a recipe, and this one has me pretty excited.
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Don’t let the name fool you, it’s not a super smoky mix. I just like naming recipes after Iron and Wine songs.
Graham Crackers and Custard are a match made in heaven. There are countless versions of this dynamic duo, but this one is mine. I'm very happy with how this turned out, and after many, MANY versions, this is the one I keep coming back to. We've got rich vanilla custard with cinnamon and subtle notes of caramelized brown sugar and honey. Then come in the crunchy cookie graham crackers. Thick and dense, these two partners make one hell of a team. The profile is simple for the most part, but I had a blast working in different concentrates to really fill this vape out into something I'm quite proud of. Most of these flavors you will find carry a dark sweetness that I am very fond of, and I think it helps fit the theme nicely.
I really like bending bakeries. I could never seem to get graham cracker right, though. I tried so many graham cracker combinations and they all fell short. I could never get that crunch that I wanted. I needed that texture. So I decided to invite FA Cookie to the party. This is a beast of a concentrate when you want that AP heavy crunch. It's kind of dry, but we are dropping those Graham Crackers into custard, right?
FA Cookie is a crunchy bakery 'cookie’ base that works very well to build our graham cracker off of. It's definitely AP heavy, and works well as a jump-off point because of its graininess and neutrality. It's dark, and mildly sweet, kind of like my Irish mother.
That's our foundation, folks. Let's start building that bad Larry up. I used two graham crackers in conjunction to the FA Cookie, both serving very different purposes. CAP Graham Cracker brings the cinnamon, and FW Graham Cracker brings some more crunch, with a touch honey.
CAP Graham Cracker has a decently strong bakery cinnamon sweetness, some people find it off-putting, but I personally love it once it settles down a bit. You are going to get some butter, and a slight graininess from this concentrate which is helpful to build on that cookie base. This thang tastes pretty authentic to me, almost like they were homemade and baked. These graham crackers came out of the oven, not out of a box. This concentrate needs help in the crunch department, and that's why we are also using FA Cookie and FW Graham Cracker.
FW Graham Cracker is hands down my favorite GC. If I had to only pick one, this is it. You ever had Honey Maid Graham Crackers? You know, the ones that come in sheets and you have to break apart? These are them. Definitely sweet, definitely cookie-like, and it packs that punchy crunchy. It also brings some honey, which is awesome in combination with CAP's offering. These 3 bakeries working together create our graham cracker cookie. It's tasty, and in my opinion a very clear representation of a solid graham cracker to crumble up into our custard.
Custard is so bomb. They are easily my favorite profile and I absolutely love tinkering with new ways to elevate them. This custard base seems pretty standard, but each ingredient was chosen very deliberately to help bolster our graham cracker. Let's start with the custard base, no surprise here, CAP Vanilla Custard.
CAP Vanilla Custard is universally accepted as a solid canvas to paint upon when it comes to developing a custard recipe, and there is no exception here. It's eggy. It's rich and buttery. It's thick, creamy and sweet. I didn't want to bring it too high, because that depth and intrigue was going to come from our cream and vanilla addition. I like taking a custard and accentuating it with the proper cream, and the proper vanilla. It just works.
DIYFS Holy Vanilla found it's home here because I decided I wanted to keep things dark. It's a superb vanilla. Malty and creamy with a tad of spice that leans towards extract. Crack them beans, baby. The rich vanilla sinks into the custard and thickens it up, all while bringing a maltiness that plays off not only the custard base, but the graham cracker. It helps bring dimension and clarity to the graham cracker which helps deliver a more accurate end product. Nothing too out of the box with this one, it just fits.
INW Creme Brulee is what sets this custard apart for me. I mean honestly, this is just another custard, but it has this delectable brown sugar note accompanied by creamy vanilla. It's not quite burnt but more of a bubbly caramelization of sugar. It again, not only brings depth to our custard, but our graham cracker as well. Brown sugar and custard? Sign me up. Sticky brown sugar graham crackers in a delicious vanilla custard? Put me in coach.
And there you have it. Crunchy, crumbly graham crackers and a robust vanilla custard sure to satisfy you bakery heads like me. Hope you enjoy.
The WF-Glazed Donut combined with the WF-Fluffy White Cake form the foundation of this cake doughnut. The FLV-Pumpkin Bread was added to darken the cake and add some more spice. The FLV-Eggnog was thrown in for the spice as well as to add moisture and a bit more egg to the cake mix. The FLV-Apple Filling brings just a hint of that apple cider taste on the exhale. The FLV-Rich Cinnamon along with the OOO-Powdered Sugar make up my outer coating. I felt that it needed a touch more vanilla and sweetness so I threw in the DFS-Holy Vanilla and CAP-Super Sweet for good measure. You can add whatever sweetener you prefer though. I also need to thank Alfred Pudding for helping me get through my basket of possible flavor combinations at the last minute. I was sick and my brain needed some guidance. He helped me tremendously by letting me bounce my ideas off of him.
Hi all! Here is my recipe for Bluebery Chocolate Glazed Muffin!
One of my top ADVs, along with Strawberry Shortcake I will share when I'm satisfied with it.
The recipe is good straight after it's mixed, although with longer steeping some of the harsh notes, especially some of those TFA "sparkly" chemical notes disappear after about a week. A month later this mix is just right and tastes very round with no notes peaking or shadowing the rest of the mix. Although after a month, some of the fresh pastry notes may go a little muted, especially the CAP Graham Cracker cinnamony note I love about this mix gets a little weaker. But the mix was very good two months after mixing, too, so it lasts for quite a while.
I have been working on this recipe for quite a while tweaking percentages and playing with different brands, especially the chocolate was very hard to get right. I finally settled with FA for chocolate, because it induced minimal, almost none of that synthetic gasolineish offnote.
This mix, although it may seem complex, is constituted mainly of minor notes that I wanted to introduce to replicate the taste of freshly baked muffin. Down in the post you will find why I used the flavors I used. The percentages are fairly weak to avoid ending up with a overpowering mix. I also wanted to avoid oversaturating the sense of smell.
FA Chocolate, FA Cocoa and TFA Acetylpyrazine - A friend of mine suggested this combination and I can't get enough of it in my recipes. I have pre-mixed 20mils of 1:1:1 and marked it Belgian Chocolate, because that's exactly what it reminds me of. I don't get pastry notes from AP at all! AP for me is more like a thickening agent for the flavors. Cocoa and Chocolate by themselves are great, too, but feel too thin on the palate - introducing AP sort makes the flavor much thicker, almost sort of a melting chocolate taste and it also eliminates the gasoline chemical offnote I get from it.
FA Cookie - This one was the choice for this mix simply because it is plain and on spot. I tried Cookie Dough flavors, I tried biscuits flavors, but they all had that "doughy" raw feeling to me. Almost as if there was no "baked"-ness in it. FA Cookie is loveable for it's simplicity. It just adds the baked flour and sugar with no other notes and that's what I need to be able to put more flavors in the mix later.
FA Meringue - This one I added just because I add it everywhere where I add FA Cookie. It lifts the bakery notes even more and promotes the freshly baked flavor. It really helps to build a solid bakery foundation in a lot of my recipes.
FA Joy - Joy for me is the yeast in the recipe. The flavor that fills in the fluffy bakery foundation and makes sort of a bridge between the rest of the flavors. Without Joy it tastes more like a cake than a soft bread muffin. When added at 2%, the mix then is more like a donut or a bun.
TFA Butter - This was actually the last one I experimented with in this recipe and took me a while to get it right. I feel like it promotes the chocolate in the mix even more, but in the melty soft way. It also rounded the recipe beautifuly. When I tried it at my usual 2%, the mix was too soft and .. well.. buttery. When I tried less than 1%, some of the other flavors started peaking a little.
TFA Cotton Candy - This one adds the sugar to the recipe. I don't know, without it the mix just wasn't sweet enough. With Sucralose based sweeteners the mix was too sweet, almost unvapable - felt too juicy, too muted.
CAP Graham Cracker - This one was very hard to discover actually. I tried several muffin/dough/cake flavors, but when I added this one, with it's soft cinnamony notes, it hit me. This was it. And I loved it. Just for the curious ones, I tried FA Nonna's Cake - it tasted more like a shortcake. I tried CAP Biscuits - too doughy.
FA Bilberry - FA Bilberry just hits the sweet spot between candy blueberry and slightly floral blueberry. It is subtle, but still fills out the space with that beautiful european mountain goodness. It brings freshness, rounded fruit notes and soft calming aroma of blueberries. I have tried 2% in the beginning and I was alright with it, but I found out over the many trials, that it sort of mutes the bakery notes, so I lowered the percentage to 1%. 1% was on the other side of the thing. The blueberry flavor was there, but was lacking the juicy. It just didn't have the Berry in it. 1.5% was a go then and I'm sticking with this percentage since then.
I really hope you like this recipe as much as I do and also any tips, ideas or improvements are very welcome.
Many have tried. All have failed. I just really wanted to be part of the long history of failures.
HS Magic Mix: This is my raisin note. At first I didn’t really taste it with the real thing. I thought everyone was crazy. But after a few months of forgetting about it after my first round of frantic clone attempts, I licked some off the back of my hand, and there she was. I’ll be damned, it has a raisin note.
FE Tobacco Absolute: Many have claimed that there had to be an NET in there, but I am throwing my hat in to say I think it’s a TA. I would assume that the TA was the ingredient that was no longer available and that’s why it went for its little vacation. I also believe that when AVE claims to use 40% flavoring, it is because they are making a super weak concentration of the Tobacco Absolute and using it at like 30%. I’m going to make sure the foil doesn’t fall off my head here, but I also have a hunch that they are diluting their TA in PG. They can consider it a “flavor” and still get away with saying they have no “added” PG. I mixed this up max VG and it just wasn’t quite right. 60/40 was much better. There was also the GCMS that Bobbysavage had done on some Boba’s, and it came out pretty much 60/40. I don’t think I trust any of the other results of that sample, but I’d think that the VG/PG ratio would be easier to determine. Just pure speculation, really. Just wanted to throw some of my own conspiracy theories out there to build the lore ;)
CAP Graham Cracker: It’s rich and has a hint of cinnamon. I think a lot of the flavor bending and confusing notes comes from the way all the tobaccos blend with this graham cracker.
The real pain in the ass part of trying to do a true clone was finding out what flavors were available at the time it was created in 2009. ECX was around back then, but I used the way back machine to look at the site in 2009, and the only DIY stuff it seemed like they had was PG, VG, and menthol crystals. The flavors that ECX sells as FE and everyone else sells as Super Concentrates I believe come from the Chinese company Xi’an Taima, and the only post on ECF asking about them was from 2010, so for the sake of just being done with this shit finally, I’m going to say they were probably available if you were creative back then. I did find a LinkedIn profile for the company that stated that they were founded in November of 2008, so there’s that. If everyone else uses Black Mile or Black Mile Plus, then I think I’ll be ok throwing out my own ideas on some FE tobaccos to use.
FE Captain: Not only does this flavor give me some of the same vibes that Boba’s does, it’s also pretty complex on its own. There’s so many things happening with it that others seem to pick out of Boba’s that I think I’d be stupid not to use it. Is there caramel? Vanilla? Coconut? Pipe tobacco? Chocolate? All depends on what your tongue wants to taste that day.
FE Desert Ship: When I first tested this I thought it was just begging to be thrown in a Boba’s clone. It’s got a pretty generic FE tobacco base with maybe a hint of some spices.
So the Captain takes care of those Base note subtleties, and the Desert Ship does the top note spices. The graham cracker blends them together, and also brings the raisin in to more of a bakery type of raisin, if that makes sense. And the Tobacco Absolute provides the real tobacco taste with a hint of ash.
And now I can rest easy knowing that I have thrown my name in to the bottomless pit of failed Boba’s Bounty cloners.
Note on the steeping: 7 days is the point that the Captain started to fall in to place a little more and the whole thing started to taste closer to Boba’s. It’s going to keep changing after that, but the 7 days is the point you should start saying, “Chem has lost his mind, this isn’t close at all.”
Someone on Facebook shared a recipe for Bourbon Graham Cracker Candy, and my interest was piqued.
I decide to try and layer different concentrates to get the bourbon, graham, and pecan parts of the recipe. I adore FW Butter Pecan and Graham Cracker but wanted to see if I could boost them both a bit using OOO Butter Pecan and CAP Graham Cracker (which has a light bakery cinnamon note that plays well with the butter pecan and bourbon) respectively. I did the same with TFA Kentucky Bourbon and VT Bourbon . . . a proven pairing that works.
I used DIYFS Holy Holy Grail to boost the caramelized syrup of the two Butter Pecans (it is, in my opinion, a stellar caramel, and the touch of tobacco brings a nutty, earthy accent to help, both, the graham and the pecan aspects). Having attempted a graham forward recipe in the past, I wanted to round out the edges with a creamy custard, turning to the buttery, smooth FA Custard Premium to achieve that feat.
Mixed it 60vg/40pg and enjoyed it last night with several sips of whiskey . . . it was also an excellent complement to coffee this morning. After a full week with 5th graders, whose minds are still firmly fixed on summer-mode, it was a much needed respite from the chaos. Enjoy!