Boozy heat on a thin, sweet bourbon.
Used in 151 recipes at an average of 1.662%.
Setup: Recoil w/ flavor barrel, Dual 12 wrap 24g 3.5mm SS316 @.32 ohms. 60w power, 450F temp limit. Full Cotton Wicks.
Testing: Vape Train Bourbon, 1%, 4% and 8%, 60/40 VG/PG base, Steeped 24 days.
Flavor Description: Boozy heat on a thin, sweet bourbon.
The base here definitely reads as a bourbon. There's a fairly prominent sweetness to it that feels a lot like a sort of mass market bourbon level of sweetness. Tastes appropriately mellow and corn-ish. There's also a bit of oak in here. Not really overwhelmingly charred or intense, but enough to come across as an oak as opposed to a peat or any other kind of whiskey barrel. Light fruitiness, but it reads pretty accurate as that light, overripe funk from fermentation. Tastewise, pretty close to a low to mid-shelf bourbon.
There is also a boozy punch to the top end of this, and it feels reasonably accurate to a sweeter bourbon. Accurate hotter alcohol notes. They do seem to have calmed down a bit from mixing fresh, but still pretty solid for 3+ weeks of a steep. Not overwhelmingly boozy, but gets the point across pretty well.
Seems to have some textural issues. Like the other Vape Train boozes I've tried, it's a fairly thin vape. Most of the flavor here feels like it's in the top end, and without a heavier base that bourbon sweetness feels a bit sticky and thin. More like smelling bourbon than actually consuming it, but I mean, vaping and all.
Right off the bat, this doesn't really work like any of the other bourbons I've tried. It's thinner and boozier than the whole lot including TPA Kentucky Bourbon, FW Whiskey, and FLV Bourbon. Doesn't' feel like it's going to be an easy sub for anything. It's sweet like TPA Kentucky Bourbon but significantly less substantial. The Oak here isn't quite as aggressive as FLV Bourbon but it's pushing in that direction. And while it isn't as funky and almost meaty as FW Whiskey, it has some of those same weirdly savory qualities.
Off-Flavors: What's here tastes fine, but it doesn't really have a heavier, fuller base to the flavor. Feels thin and top heavy by itself.
Throat Hit: Moderate, but booze and all. Not unduly harsh for the general level of booziness.
Percentage testing: At 1%, at least with this kind of steep, I'm not getting much out of this. Slight booziness and a bit of sweetness. Nothing that really identifiably tastes like a whiskey.
At 4%, this is reading just a bit more like a whiskey. Still feels more like boozy top notes rather than a rich, robust full whiskey flavor. Light char, light sweetness, but really more just about that top-end booziness.
At 8%, this is definitely a little boozier, but still doesn't feel like a full whiskey flavor. A bit sweeter, and lightly fruity. Char seems about unchanged.
Vape Train suggests a pretty wide range for this: 1-5% mixed, and 5-9% solo. Just based on these tests, I'd be using this as an accent flavor around 3-4%. While it isn't unvapeable up higher, it doesn't really seem to be bring anything extra to the table at higher percentages.
Uses & Pairings: I'd call this a whiskey booster more than a discrete bourbon. Solo, there just isn't enough body here to convey a strong bourbon flavor.
Seems to pretty a natural fit with something like TPA Kentucky Bourbon which has that sweeter, heavier body but no distinct booziness to speak of. I'd use the Kentucky Bourbon as a base and just let this fill in some of the hotter booze notes in cocktail applications.
While the booziness here does lean bourbon, I don't think it's too oaky to use with other whiskeys like FA Whisky. Should do largely the same thing without turning that scotch base over to bourbon. VT does have a scotch whiskey flavor that I'll be testing later though, so it may not be your best option there.
If you did want to use this without whiskey backup, it could work for a lighter cocktail application like a (weaker tasting) whiskey and coke.
This wouldn't really be my choice for non-cocktail bourbon applications. Bourbon with creams, custards, and bakeries is generally more about the sweetness and body rather than any booziness. While this may end up being interesting with tobaccos, it's not going to really blend so much as add booze.
Second Opinions: Still pretty minimal.
User "King4aVape" wrote in an earlier thread about Vape Train: "bourbon - for me it's miles ahead from Kentucky bourbon tfa. Sweet, boozy, bourbony like the real deal. I'm tempted to drink it straight."
Here's the product page from Vape Train. Their Description: "pairs well with many beverage style recipes and desserts, custards and tobaccos."
Ok so this did not take long at all and for a weird mix such as this it is not bad at all. This is the second and most likely the last version I am making. The bourbon came off a little too strong in the first go around so u had to lower it a bit. The vanilla ice cream was not as full filling so I took it up a notch so it would be more aware of the present haha. The cola is a great flavoring and it is accurate as hell so because of the potency of its aroma I brought it down a hair. Overall, the results are a bit better and as far as revising, I don't think it is necessary, however feel free to use it as a base or let me know if you find something that could make it shine more.
Made on Live Mixing
Feel free to swap Molasses for Brown sugar if you don't have it
Jack Daniels Tennesse Whiskey, Lemonade and a splash of Triple sec.
The Bourbon Trifecta by ID10-T works wonderfully here The Charred oak and sweetness from flavorah gives a lot of autheticity to the mix with only 0.5% while Kentucky Bourbon and VTA Bourbon add sweet bourbon, booze notes and some extra woody flavour.
Flavorah Lemonade its so good.. here plays the role of the citrus lemon-limey lemonade.
VTA Orange Tang is our Triple Sec, mixed with the bourbon booze note from VTA Bourbon gives the illusion of adding triple sec and also brings some fizzy notes and sweetness to make up for the simple syrup as Flavorah is a pretty natural lemonade.
You can Omit Ws-23 to get extra booze notes as it kills the top booze note but this cocktail is served on ice so .. you choose.
( if you omit ws23 drop by half the sweetener)
Vanilla, Custard, Dairy, Bourbon, Brown Sugar, tasty.
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This trinity is meant to be used as a base and starting point for your recipes when you want to add some bourbon to the mix!
TFA Kentucky Bourbon brings the corny sweetness
VT Bourbon brings the strong boozy top notes
FLV Bourbon has the authentic charred oak barrel taste to tie it all together
This recipe is just meant to be a starting point. Please feel free to adapt as you see fit! Want more of the boozy top notes? Increase VT Bourbon. Want less of the oak barrel taste in there? Lower or remove the FLV Bourbon.
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This is a Rich Chocolate Pudding with light Bourbon Notes. Great Mouthfeel Dense Vape. We can all have an off camera Zippy Moment with this one!!
ThE pUdDiNg BaSe
VT CHOCOLATE MOUSSE - This is one of my favorite chocolate concentrates sadly it cannot be used in every application but it still ranks very high for me. This concentrate brings a medium to dark chocolate flavor but the greatest part about this n es it actually taste fluffy and airy like a mouthfull of chocolate whipped cream.
VT FRENCH VANILLA ICE CREAM - This adds a much needed vanilla note and creaminess to the base of this recipe as well as adding to the overall mouthfeel
FLAVORAH VANILLA PUDDING - Not much else to say about this one that hasn't been said. Light vanilla pudding texture and creaminess. great mouthfeel as well as a blender to combine the ingredients in the recipe for a uniform taste through out.
WONDER FLAVORS BOURBON - For me this concentrate taste and smells like Jack Daniels - It is pretty well balanced in flavor profile. There really isnt a total bourbon flavoring out there for me but this one would be in the combo to achieve it . The Flavor has a slight alcohol note and some of the oaky flavor needed in a bourbon. it is missing that burn you get from drinking a bourbon by the shot.
VAPE TRAIN BOURBON - This concentrate has more of the alcohol note you need to do a bourbon right. It is still light on the woodsy notes needed in a bourbon but again would be part of a combo if trying to make a good bourbon vape. I think i could relate this concentrate to maybe a Makers Mark type of flavor.
These two together give a nice Bourbon NOTE ON THE EXHALE of the vape and doesn't hide the Chocolate Puddin'.
a mix made for Alex Mcanally, known for being in the army and liking green stuff and having a crush on all his vape mates.
Alex Mixanally - a rich vanilla custard pummelled with bourbon whisky and salted caramel then finished off with hazelnut and coconut.
3 different custard-esque concentrates combine to make the base (LB VIC, CAP VC, WF Tahitian) using LB and WF means it is going to steep out a bit quicker although some people may need to give this a few days due to the CAP V1.
VTA salted caramel has been chosen as i find it the least "burnt" of all the salted caramels, well, all the ones that matter anyway... VTA golden syrup helps make that salted caramel a soft set caramel and also plays beautifully with the bourbon.
VTA bourbon used at 2% avoided any smokiness but wasn't as strong as i'd like so i topped up with a smidge of FLV bourbon just to make it present enough but not to overtake everything else.
FA coconut, Self Explanatory... used at 1.5% just to sit behind everything and not be overbearing.
If you like this recipe and what i do then please rate and review accordingly :)