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(TPA) Dk Tobacco Base


By: The Flavor Apprentice (TPA) - Buy Direct
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Used in 81 recipes at an average of 4.069%.

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Banana, peanut butter cookie, and caramel tobacco. A bit of Bigglesworth's Prairie (holdovers: DK Tobacco Base and TFA Peanut Butter) with some extra tobacco, caramel, and cookie thrown in for good measure. Really just wanted to play with VT Banana Custard.

Inspired by Fear's Cardinal (a cardinal is a Prince of the Church) crossed with Bigglesworth's Prairie/Grizzly Vapes' Nanner Bear (prairie = the Great Plains). Throw in a little FLV Tatanka Tobacco (tatanka is a Lakota, a Great Plains Native American tribe, word referring to the buffalo) mixed with some creamy, custard, and we have The Prince of the Great Plains.

The Cardinal inspiration - DFS Holy Grail RY4 (4%) and FLV Red Burley (0.5%). The original Cardinal (https://alltheflavors.com/recipes/24962#cardinal_by_fear . . . which is outstanding) was 8% Holy Grail RY4 and 0.75% Red Burley with 0.25% FLV Kentucky Blend. I cut the Holy Grail in half to make room for DK Tobacco from Prairie . . . lowered Red Burley to 0.5% and switched Kentucky Blend out with Tatanka (bumping the percentage up to 0.5%) Tatanka really adds to the nutty, caramel vibe, which steers this even father away from a tobacco and more towards a dessert.

The Prairie/Nanner Bear inspiration - /u/project_twenty5oh1's Nanner Bear clone, which became Prairie (see edit below) was a revelation when I first tried it. So earthy and different from most of the other commercial juices I'd tried (with the exception of Grizzly's Nanner Bear). I subbed out TFA Peanut Butter in favor of TFA Toasted Almond (1%) for the nutty aspect of Prairie. I kept TFA Banana Cream and Banana Nut Bread but dropped them to 1% each (as opposed to the original percentages 5 and 3, respectively). The flavor that really sets Prairie (and I assume Nanner Bear not knowing the recipe) apart is TFA DK Tobacco Base. It's odd and earthy but not necessarily what I think of when I think of tobacco. However, it is delicious nonetheless and necessary, in my opinion. I dropped it from 6% to 3% to make room for the Holy Grail RY4.

Because this is a dessert, I wanted to wrap it all up with a custard. I went with CC Devon Cream (1%) and INW Custard (1.5%) to smooth out the base of the custard. The TFA Banana Cream also plays nice with the custards/creams. INW Custard is an instantly vapable custard, but I'm intersted to see how/if this changes with a steep.

With that being said, I mixed up a 10mL tester of this at 60vg40pg and have plowed through about half of the bottle dripping it in my Hadaly clone . . . so it is definitely a SNV. It checks all of the boxes I was hoping for: a creamy, nutty caramel custard with notes of banana and the earthiness of tobacco floating around in it. When I finish this bottle, I plan on throwing some FA Polar Blast at it and, possibly, a drop or two of Axiom's Icicles to complete that ode to Bigglesworth/Grizzly Vapes. I think it will play well with the caramel aspect based on how much I loved BDY's K2, a Canadian juice that was a caramel-vanilla tobacco with a kiss of icy menthol. I'll also mix up a larger batch of this recipe by itself and see how it steeps, as this tester will not see tomorrow. I will update when I figure it all out.

Edit - try this url for twenty5oh1's original post: https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/comments/2luk9u/project_twenty5oh1s_nannerpolar_bear_clone_xpost/

An amazing cloned recipe by u/project_twenty5oh1 he put in a ton of work into this spot on clone a few years back and is one of my ADV. I have found that the menthol that works for me is .5%-.7% fw extreme ice to make the Polar Bear clone. Personally I don't use the heating mixer and I just mix and shake and it's perfect for me.

Original post on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/electronic_cigarette/comments/2lsbi1/in_celebration_of_reaching_25000_comment_karma_on/?st=IX3QN6MB&sh=29e41527

"u/project_twenty5oh1"
Hello all,
I've been working for the past several months solely on a polar bear clone. I've talked to many juicers, many diyers, and had many people test it, and I'm happy enough with it that I feel comfortable sharing the fruits of my labor. For those who don't DIY, TFA = The Flavor Apprentice (or the Perfumer's Apprentice) one of the main companies used by juice vendors.

6.0% TFA DK Base
5.0% TFA Banana Cream
3.0% TFA Banana Nut Bread
1.0% TFA Bananas Foster
3.0% TFA Peanut Butter
0.3% TFA Koolada
0.2% TFA Coconut Extra
0.3% TFA Smooth
1.0% Strong Mint/Menthol Concentrate
Take out the mint/menthol and you get Nanner. My suggestion is to use Axiom's Icicles (the concentrate of which is used as the mint/menthol in Polar Bear) - you could order 0mg from Axiom and use it as a flavor ingredient, reducing VG appropriate to even out the concentration; Icicles is 20% concentrate, so if you made a 100ml bottle you would need 5ml of Icicles juice to reach 1% concentration in the Polar bear.
Now, some notes on process. After discussions with some juicers, we came to the conclusion that a heated magnetic stirrer is the likely culprit for the "process" that Grizzly uses for their juice, and that it's not really completely ready right away after mixing (as I'm sure they'd like us to believe) but that you mix using this process, and then 3-4 days later it's reached shelf stability. The juice I made last Saturday is exactly the right color of Polar Bear now (bonus reusing polar bottle!), so I'm pretty sure i've got it right. This process works for any juice you mix, and makes trying a mix you're fiddling with much, much faster.
Basically, I cook the juice for 4-8 hours in a heated magnetic stirrer at a constant 75c. The stirrer has a temperature probe which will equalize the temp inside the flask with the temp of the hotplate, so there's no guesswork as to whether you've hit the right temp (such as using a water bath or heated ultrasonic). Here's some before and after shots of a 1500ml batch I made:
Ingredients initially mixed and the vortex stabilized, temp reached, begin cook time
Four hours later
The end result is a Nanner/Polar clone that has the following attributes:

1) It doesn't gunk up cotton or coils. Myself and others have found that you can go at least two weeks without changing cotton, and when you remove it there is no discoloration. What this says about nanner/polar may be that it has some ingredient that contains a sweetener, or sweetener is added, I don't really know.

2) This relates to 1; it's not as sweet as the real thing, which I've found I quite like, while retaining all the inherent flavor attributes that make it such a good juice.

3) It costs $1.20/30ml.
If you have any questions about using the stirrer or anything about the process please feel free to ask. My entire plan for this juice was to open source it, and I've been selling it for $10/100ml (up to 1L) plus shipping. Really just double the cost of materials, I'm just happy people have been enjoying affordable juice I made. I encourage you to try this recipe and see if you can figure out what is missing to make it a really true clone, or make your own improvements! Let me know what you come up with :)
Here is a link to the heated magnetic stirrer I've been using- you will need to buy stir bars and flasks separately, but they all can be found on amazon. This is also a nifty gadget for other things that require constant mixing and fixed temperature.

Here's what my fridge looks like after I cooked up 4L last weekend, 2L 6mg Polar and 2L 3mg Nanner:

http://imgur.com/Ta5ImD2

Polar Bear was the first juice I found (after trying HUNDREDS) which I could vape and vape and vape and never get sick of. I bought easily 80+ bottles of it. I've vaped more than a liter of my own version in its current iteration, and I love it. I won't be going back to buying juice, ever.
TL;DR: Recipe is at the top. #kickbacks, #crucifixions, #Bigglesjuice, #wheredeyatdoe, #hashtag.
EDIT: This recipe works GREAT at 0mg!
EDIT AGAIN: Pimp for /r/diy_ejuice!

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