Used in 139 recipes at an average of 1.898%.
This is a true cigar experience, with its dark and ashy smoke, and a dry brown leaf taste, not your commercial vanilla Cigar E-juice, but its sweet (without sweetener) and savoury.
Fa Black Fire + INW Dirty neutral base Give the perfect black ashy smoke, they are used high as they lose a bit of strength as it steeps.
FLV Connecticut Shade+ Flavorah Cured make our Cigar wrapper, body and filling with brown leafy notes and a light smoke ring.
FA Oak Wood adds woody notes and some dry mouthfeel and aftertaste finished by INW TA Cuban Cigar Which adds more smoky dryness and some actual cigar flavour.
VTA Cigar Leaf Serves as the base and background notes, wrapping everything together, adding light caramel sweetness and subtle cigar leafy notes.
The more you let it steep the smoother it gets.
It needs around 7 days to smooth out and let dnb and Black fire to settle down.
60/40 is the highest ratio of VG i recomend or it feels strange, 50/50 is best.
Edit 5/3/20: This was made just as HHG v1 was going out of production. If you have v1, you wont be disappointed in this one.
The theme for mixer's club was Duets. I decided to take my love for Cardinal and try to see if I could get more tobacco out of it. My problem with Cardinal was always that it was just never enough tobacco flavor. So I decided to try it with Brigade 2506 by @ChemicalBurnVictim as like a peanut butter and jelly tobacco blend.
The results were strange. I first just lifted the holy holy grail ry4 and mixed it with BFP and TA CC. That wasn't working so I added back in everything on both recipes until I had a straight mash up of the two. For one tester, I just threw in some Am4a on a whim at 1%. for some reason that mix worked better than the others. The two recipes needed a bridge to pull them together and I'm guessing that the slightly creamy Am4a was able to bridge that gap between the caramelly HHG and the darker brigade flavorings.
Based on feedback from @ID10-T, I experimented with the levels of Am4a to get it right. I sent him some samples to try with Am4a at 0/0.3/0.5/0.7/0.9% His feedback being that the Am4a stood out too prominently at 1.0 and I was inclined to agree. Testing at various levels we both agreed that 0.5/0.7 were indistinguishable.
So, here it is at the 11th hour as Holy Holy Grail Ry4 v1 fades into diy history... Sacrilege (Amped brigade 2506)
- I do like the 0.9 version as well. It leans more to that creamy bacco side than a mash-up and you can try that out too if you like more bacco and dont mind the distraction.
- just want to take a moment to thank the Mixer's club for encouragement and feedback and to ID10-T for helping me to get the levels perfect and trying out some samples to nail it down.
When I decided to quit smoking it was because I didn't like the taste, but still appreciated a good cigar. In La Palma (Canary Islands) they grow great leaves!
This is what I tried, and without steeping it is a great Cuban Cigar base, aiming to be amplified with some vanilla, or honey.
Gold for Pipe (INW) bring necessary sweetness, Absolute Cuban Cigar (INW) the basic spice and Absolute Garuda (INW) the leafy part.
Will mess it up with a vanilla base, when I get to one I like (vanillas are playing hard, or I am just too picky!)
Went through 3 versions of this, landing at this one. I like my tobacco vapes pretty strong, so give this one a 2 week steep before you try it. I have mixed dozens of "cuban cigar" recipes and nothing tastes like them like mine does.
If other cuban cigar recipes have you longing for more punch, look no further.
Triple punch of shade, fire, and DNB give it the bitterness needed for tobacco vapes, and the dual cuban flavors give it the richness. AP and BR smooth out the top notes and add some subtle sweetness.
A creamy caramel cigar fit for a filthy gunslinger. It changes a lot in the first week or so, give it some time.
JF RY4D - better than tfa. A bit more tobacco, cleaner vanilla and caramel.
FA caramel + butterscotch - takes a short steep but once they mature it turns into a goopy sticky caramel drizzle.
TFA FVC - It's malty, rich mouth coating vanilla but not as thick and eggy as custard. Definitely underrated, I put that shit on everything.
INW TA Cuban Cigar - straight no frills cigar wrapper leaf flavor. Light, leathery, no bull shit.
INW 555 + FLV Red Burley - primary filler tobaccos for the cigar, 555 adds that nuttiness and Red Burley melds similar notes with a dark, rich and earthy filler. Perfect intersection of profiles.
INW DNB - you're gonna have a cigar and not smoke it? Light that thang up, Blondie.
Smoky tobacco with dark berries.
The original idea was to use ingredients with “black” in the name (hence the name), and to try to boost the dark berry notes in Black for Pipe. I think I succeeded with the latter, but the former didn’t quite work out.
The first problem with the “Black” idea was TFA Blackberry. Too floral. Same problem with INW Blackcurrant. Wasn’t really feeling it with Black Cherry for Pipe or INW Black Jack either. So to get the main idea to work, I had to pretty much scrap the Blacks.
For the tobacco base I ended up going with my Brigade 2506 recipe because that pretty much makes Black for Pipe perfect to me. The berries and Connecticut Shade came together kind of by accident. I asked for some ideas on diy_ejuice and @ID10-T suggested FLV Açaí, and mentioned some cocoa notes. I thought that might be interesting with some FLV Connecticut Shade. I must have read a flavor review for Boysenberry before I went to BCF, because I ended up buying FLV Boysenberry instead of the Açaí. I didn’t realize my mistake until I mixed it up and it tasted pretty good, so I went to thank Dave for the suggestion. Then I saw that he said Açaí. I figured I’d better get that one to see if it’s even better, and it was pretty good too. I knew then that I had to at least try it with both, and by golly it was perfect.
I have been really digging it in a MTL tank. Those berries are up front on the inhale and then the smoky perfection of Black for Pipe comes in on the back end.
Shisha tobacco is complex by itself.Combined with miss cream adds sweetness and a slight chocolate taste to the mix,since both of them seem to contain a little chocolate.miss cream also adds a mild caramel and vanilla taste.Tobacco syphony is used mostly because it is a nutty tobacco,but not salty,i would say it is more on the sweet nuttiness side.Cigar absolute makes the mix drier and also adds the necessary ash note
A cigarette. Probably the closest I've gotten so far. It's funky, smoky, and dirty.
FLV Arabian- If you've struggled with this flavor like I have, make a 10% dilution and start playing with that at .5%. It's strong and funky, but once you find your comfort zone with it, it is a pretty interesting flavor to play with. It adds a musty, grassy, earthy taste. Not something you want in your face, but it's nice when hidden in the base.
FLV Classic Cigarette- FA Burley, but usable is how I like to describe it. Grassy notes, a bit of ash, and a pretty satisfying throat hit. It's strong as hell, and even at 1% it is going to be the star of your mix.
INW TA Cuban Cigar- one of my favorite additives to use in a cigarette mix. Taste wise it doesn't add a whole lot. There's a pleasant Tobacco Leaf taste, but I use it mostly to dry things up a bit. Never had a cigarette with really wet smoke, so I throw this in to give it a dry smoke feel.
INW DNB- no burning cigarette recipe is complete without it! At least in my opinion. Gimme all the dirty ash taste.
Adding 1% FA Polar Blast (or cooling agent of your choice) can turn this in to a nice Menthol cigarette. I've given some to someone that was struggling to give up Newports and he said it was crazy how accurate it was to a Newport. Hated menthols, so I can't say much about that. But if you liked menthols or you're trying to help someone quit menthols, give it a go!