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I bent the original recipe to better fit my palate. I no longer had JF sweet strawberry so I swapped in CAP sweet strawberry instead. Upped the apple, m&h and meringue. I lowered the cactus and added a drop of MTS, which tastes a bit like coconut to me, adding to the depth of flavor and pulling the top notes down just a touch.
Simple. Dry, slightly buttery, shortbread cookies with a big fat drop of chewy, tangy and sweet orange marmalade. Just like grandma used to make.
First, I had the blood orange at 2% and it really took everything over. The cookie base by itself was mostly fine, not that you could taste it through the orange! The FA cookie is almost perfect on it's own for this kind of cookie. It really just needed a touch of vanilla and the inw biscuit brings that slight butteriness.
I had some help from Lil Kittybit on the diy_ejuice discord going over this recipe. He suggested dropping the orange to 0.5% since this particular FA flavor is rather potent. He was absolutely right. He also suggested some kind of thickening for the fruit layers. I already had meringue sitting on the sideline as a maybe here. We agreed that it might do the trick to bring down those bright, sharp orange bits just enough to make it jammy.
Right away: There is a sharp, almost floral -taste- that overpowers everything good about it. The cookie is very very dry. The orange sits completely separate from the cookie.
3 days: You can tell that everything is starting to settle but that perfumy-ness is still there. As the flavors mesh together, the mouth feel becomes a bit thicker and the initial OVER tanginess is becoming smoother almost like the jam melting and becoming that candy drop in the oven.
7 days: Most of the harshness is gone in the 10ml test however the larger, 120ml, batch definately needs more time.
14 days: The initial harshness has melted away. There is still a super light dry cookie on the inhale. The only wetness here is definitely coming from the chewy orange jam on the exhale, which no longer has that sharpness to it. Just smooth and sweet.
Update: I gave it more time and it almost seemed to become harsh all over again. I added a tiny bit of CAP Super Sweet (sucralose) and a drop or 2 of FA MTS Vape Wizard which has smoothed everything out to where it should be.
Update 2: added a tiny bit of wf sc almond cookie and it's perfect now
So if anyone has ever tried my original A&W root beer float and thought it was good well I got a good tip and inverted it into this one and with the 2 different root beer flavors in this one they give it alil more spice with a nice smooth ice cream notes in the background give this one a shot guys U might like this one better
INW Custard and FA Caramel - they add a little bit extra caramel, while bringing a bit more body.
FA, HS and TPA Ry4/1 - TPAs all alone is dirty, but not tobacco-y enough. FAs is cleaner and that's exactly it's problem. Hangsen just to bring that classic hangsen tobacco note.
TPA Brown Sugar - i can't really explain but i really dig how it works with RY4d, makes everything a bit darker.
FA Mts Wizz - The mix didn't really work before i threw this in, just blends it all together.
A couple weeks should do ya. It gets a bit fuller the more you steep it, but starts losing some 'bite' after the 2nd/3rd week.
V2 Dropped TPA RY4D, upped both FA RY4 and HS RY1
Week - 9 The Year of Mixing Challenge
My Tribute Recipe to one of my favorite mixers, Fresh03. I know how much he loves lava cake, and cupcakes, and creamy custardy things, and this recipe hits all of that. I did not list sweetener in the recipe, but I would suggest 0.5% CAP Super Sweet, or 1% FW Sweetener, or 0.5% FLV Sweetness. Since there were a few options for sweetener I've left it up to the mixer to decide if they want to add it. IF you want to forego the sweetener this recipe works fine without it, but is a little bolder with the sweetener added.
If you don't have vape wizard you can skip it out of the recipe and everything will work fine without it. It is there to add just a touch more body to the recipe boosting the creams.
This recipe is just a simple chocolate cupcake with a whipped marshmallow cream filling and the powder sugar helps bring out a frosting type taste.
I suggest a 2 week steep, you could probably even go a full 4 weeks for the cupcake and creams to fully develop, but if you enjoy these flavors shake and vape, I say go for it. It was unoffensive as a shake and vape, but the flavors really come out better after a few weeks of steeping.
Well here we are again. I swore I would never work on this damn recipe again but I had a breakthrough after making a totally unrelated juice. I was using Vanilla Bean Gelato and smelled that missing element of Duchess I had been looking for. Who knew? I have made over 45 batches of clones to get here and took a very long break but finally feel confident to post this. Try it out and let me know what you think. I think you will agree that this is the closest clone we have ever got to the original. Have any comments, suggestions or think something is off? Leave comments down below. Thanks and enjoy.
FW Butterscotch Natural- I tried the natural version and non- natural but cant make up my mind which is best. With that said, other brands were not the sweet buttery flavor I was looking for . It is potent stuff so no more than 2% is needed. It becomes more buttery as it steeps and it settles after a week or so.
FW Tres Leche- This is the back end of the cream and gives it just a slight sour flavor like the original. I tried milk or other similar flavors but they just don't work and I believe there is reason it is in the description.
FW Graham Cracker- A big thank you goes out to Wayne Walker for this one. Yellow cake never hit the mark right and this cannot be subbed for any from Capellas or TPA. They are just to different. It is the needed bakery aspect of the cake and seems to work in this setting. The more I play with this, the more I think 1% is too high. after a steep it really comes to the front and 0>5% is more likely to be on point.
FW Hazelnut- I tried them all and this fits the best. There is most definitely hazelnut in the original and 1.5% after a steep seems to fit well. Again, subbing it for another just wont be the same.
TPA Vanilla Bean Gelato- This is the star of the show. I cant understate how much you cant sub this out. The whole backbone of the recipe falls on it and I have tried different % but after a steep this fell right into place. Its very sweet and in my opinion removes any need for a sweetener in this recipe. The eggyness mixed with the butterscotch is perfect and seems to have a slight coconut essence about it that I can taste in the original. This was the Holy grail in the recipe that I could never put my finger on.
Cap Vanilla Custard- I think we all knew this was in there but add too much and it takes away from the Gelato. 2% seems to keep it from taking over but still has a strong presence. As always it takes a little while for it to come to the party. After a week you can expect it to play.
FA Vape Wizard- This is to thicken and funny enough it brings the color to the original. Its not a deal breaker but I feel it adds to the experience. It is roughly 1 drop per 10ml of juice.
FW French Vanilla- I have tried every Vanilla out there except for holy Vanilla as I cannot seem to get it in Canada. Its softer than the others and compliments the creams in the recipe but wont overtake the recipe. I have had success with CAP French Vanilla but found less after taste with the FW version.
TPA Marshmallow- This adds volume and fluffiness to the recipe and I'm certain its in the reserve version of duchess but not in the original.
CAP Super Sweet- if you must add sweetener I would use this but no more than 0.25%. The original isn't very sweet compared to other commercial juices. I personally leave it out but go nuts.
Well there you have it. Try it and let me know what you guys think. I always promised I would re-post my Duchess after I felt I got it right...I just didn't think it was gonna be a year later. Mix it at 70VG/30PG to get the original consistency and give it a week to steep. With that said, taste it right away and let me know your thoughts. I'm dying to hear feedback. Even after a shake and vape you will see it is on track but falls into place after the steep. I hope this helps someone who went through the same hell I did.