By: Flavorah (FLV)
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Paw Paw Pie (Dismal Pie)
Paw Paws are a strange sort of fruit called a custard apple. It works wonderfully as a non-descript soft tropical flavor. It also makes great desserts (although I've seen it paired with fish before). It's creamy with a raw/ earthy sweet flavor. This is not a pastry sort of pie but more like a fruity custard pie in a graham cracker crust that was hand pressed with butter and sugar into the pan.
It's the wrong time of year for this fruit that naturally grows in the American Applachia as it's far too DISMAL outside ;).
VT Paw paw is nearly spot on for a real paw paw but far too soft so in order to bring it forward and make it a richer flavor over the creamy bit of the pie I brought in it's incomplete cousins to bolster it: Flv mango and wf cherimoya. The mango is sweet and bright whereas the cherimoya brings the rind and edge of the fruit with a slight bit of pineapple sweetness. To keep the smooth creamy flavor/texture a touch of flv vanilla pudding was used.
The crust is mostly flv graham cracker for the crust with a tiny bit of TPA CC (graham crust) that ties it in with the paw paw rather than sitting completely separate from the rest of the pie.
This Apple Pie was created for PI day and especially for the second year start of the PI Network Project a project that started one year ago with the help of some briljant PhD's of Stanford's University. Visit their FB page https://www.facebook.com/PiCoreTeam/
I wanted this to be a real celebration pie, a recipe crafted with some of the best aromas available to the vape community.
FA Apple Pie and FLV Graham Cracker makes a lovely pastry.
A nice layer of FLV Vanilla Pudding covered with FLV Apple Filling combined with FLV Orange Citrus and FLV Cranberry for a little tang the filling is just what i was looking for. Added some little dash of FLV Bourbon for the smokey part.
Finished the the mix with OOO Marshmallow Vanilla to give that lovely soft taste to the vape.
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This is our version of a Caramel Banana Cream Pie. If you want a bit more bakery note, you can increase the INW Biscuit to 0.75%. Full Development Notes at https://youtu.be/myTPFJdWxAE .
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I DID NOT USE LA CHOCOLATE! I USED LA CHOCOLATE NATURAL!
If anyone has tackled a peanut butter profile, you know how difficult this can be because of the lack of really good peanut butter flavorings. Most are dry, too "peanut" and not enough "butter", and lacking in saturation. I took it a step further and added a chocolate, another hard profile(I must like the punishment). But after many batches, I believe this to be a fairly accurate mix. Do I think it's perfect? No, but I'll let you be the judge of that.
Lets start with the chocolate - First off, I DID NOT use LA Chocolate, I used LA Chocolate Natural, it's very different than LA Chocolate, so please don't substitute. All The Flavors does not have LA Chocolate Natural in their data base. I discovered this flavor on my quest for the best chocolate. This flavoring has a "real" chocolate vibe that seems to emulate a chocolate bar. It feels like a chocolate coating that you would have on a Reese Cup or chocolate bar. For this reason I chose this as my chocolate layer. I've used it from .5% - 2% but higher than 2% you start to get a very slight off note from it but not as bad as other chocolates. With any chocolate you need something to sell the profile because most are dry and "cocoa-like". Although LA Chocolate Natural has very little of this, it does need a "fatty" creamy note to make the chocolate believable. WF White Chocolate (Milky Cream) does this very nicely and it also gives the peanut butter note that creaminess that most peanut butter flavorings lack. This flavoring kills 2 birds with 1 stone.
Now the peanut butter - What can I say except I wish we had a better one. That being said, TPA DX Peanut Butter is the most accurate, best peanut butter we have. I tried bolstering TPA DX Peanut Butter with HS peanut Butter, and while it's a decent flavoring, it gave it too much of a "peanut skin" note. This seems to be a problem with most peanuts or peanut butters. I also tried FLV peanut butter, which in my opinion is the second best peanut butter, but it has such a dryness and off note that just didn't work. So, I focused on getting the creaminess and "caramel" notes right with the addition of the WF White Chocolate(Milky Cream) and FW Butter Pecan. The FW Butter Pecan adds the caramel and slight creaminess or smoothness that I needed to balance the peanut butter.
The cookie - WF Crispy Wafer was always on my list for this profile. It is the most accurate note for the type of wafer I was going for. The only problem was that it was too light. I tried pumping it up to around 5% but it began to make the mix very dry and throaty. I decided to try and lift the wafer note by adding FLV Graham Cracker at 1%, and it did lift the wafer up, but seemed too dark for a "wafer". So, I decided to brighten or "wafferize"(I know that's not a word) the graham cracker. I added CAP Sugar Cookie at a mere .5%, just enough to bring a brightness to the graham cracker.
I added .75% Cap Super Sweet to the mix because the real desert is sweet, but feel free to adjust it to your preference.
Do I think this is a perfect mix,...no, but given the flavors we have to work with, it's pretty damn tasty.
If you have trouble finding LA Chocolate Natural, you can find it at diyvaporsuppy.com. If you're outside of the US, You can look here for International retailers, https://www.lorannoils.com/medias/International%20Retailers%20and%20Distributors%202018.pdf
This is not a shake and vape! This mix is a bit throaty off the shake so please let it steep. It needs a week steep, but 2 weeks is suggested.
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