By: Flavorah (FLV)
Used in 98 recipes at an average of 0.474%.
Mixer's Club April Submission - April Fool's: make a tasty vape with one odd ingredient - FLV Arabian
I originally wanted to use LB WCPM to make an odd vape with tobacco. That ended up being a delightful ADV for me that I had no need for feedback on. So when it came submission time for this entry I was out of fresh ideas that I wanted to pursue (and test various failures of). So, I saw some notes scrawled on a post-it note by my computer and I remembered a mix that worked with an idea I had a while back to use FLV Arabian as an accent note to a bakery of some sort.
I have been really lazy mixing during Covid, mostly spending the time doing tests and write ups at the computer over the busy life I generally lead where I can make some tests and not have a chance to vape it until 3-4 weeks later when I next have time. Needed a quick mix one day and decided to try Kokanda's Sick AF. I like SC and MnH so why the hell not? I was struck off the shake how sweet it was and it didnt have a strong singular note that stood out on top of that sugar. I figured this would be a great base to play with and i probably over-complicated it with a couple of flavors I knew would pull it where I wanted. To top it all off, I added a few drops of Arabian and so v0 was born. The current recipe as it stands is a bit pared down. I am currently in love with WF HnC with tobacco thanks to Tesla DelMar and so I opted to leave out the MnH from the original mix. SC could probably go higher if I wanted a prominent 'cookie' vibe, but I didn't. I wanted it to be in this nether region between sweet and spicy, tobacco and bakery, sugar and cream. I chose WF Caramel Butter over FM or FA Caramel or an RY4 because I wanted it to play to the cookie vibe, HnC because good but also to add that nutty creaminess to blend the bacco to the cookie. Decided to see if I can bend the spice notes of Arabian just a bit with a touch of Cardamom. For me, 0.5 is about right but here I'm going for an indistinct blend of warm subtle spice. This is a new addition and I know Cardamom works but not sure if it will poke through enough at 0.15, but fuck it, let's try it. It is taking the place of FW Hazelnut which was there to boost the nut and overall vibe, I just felt it wasnt needed opting for SV for mouthfeel and to match that ry4 vibe. The Cardamom should add to the overall flavor, blend in nicely but also remain a distinct, warm spice that plays both sides tobacco and bakery while highlighting the Arabian spice notes. Not like me to play it light touch and, if anything, I am proud of my restraint.
Do mind the steep. I haven't actually pinned down when it gets best, 2 weeks is a minimum guess, 3 probably better.
Thanks to the support of the gang in MC for being such a cool group and always encouraging me to try new things!
Been playing with some cavendish and different tobaccos/sweeteners to make mixes that have fallen on the range between straight tobacco and something smoother and sweeter. This combination was developed for an mtl rta and never tested outside of that. I imagine DTL would add more nuance which would likely bring out more complex tobacco notes and sweetness so some adjustments could be made depending on your tastes.
This comes across as a slightly sweet, dark flavored pipe tobacco with some emphasis on the tobacco and a hint of nuttiness to balance the sweet.
Baccos: hs ry1 provides the bulk of the bacco as a kind of neutral ciggie type flavor which gets slightly bent towards the more pipe feel with cavendish. At 0.5%, cavendish adds sweet syrupy pipe darkness without any ash or spice notes. Any higher than 0.5 and that part gets more intense and I wouldn’t take it higher than 0.75-1 if you wanted more of that here.
Additives: Arabian adds a distinctive nuttiness and body to the baccos. It settles down a bit by day 3 but is fairly prominent nonetheless. m&h provides a boost for the sweet and can be reduced for less sweetness particularly if you add more cavendish. I’d drop by 0.25 for every 0.1 of cavendish added if that’s your game. Smooth vanilla is intense at 0.2 so I use one drop (approximately 0.2) per 30ml because I’m too lazy to make a dilution. It’s a subtle amount here that needs about 3 days to come forward. I’ve found 0.02g/10ml to be a bold ass vanilla that needs at least several days to settle, 0.02g/15ml for a strong distinctive vanilla to settle in a few and 0.02g/30ml for the vanilla to creep in after a few days. As this is mostly snv (3 days) I stick with one drop per 30ml and I like it that way.
As always, there’s room to play here. You can sub out hs ry1 for a variety of baccos for different results. Flv Turkish at 1.5 for more spiced notes is my second choice. M&h can probably be subbed for something suitably sweet or even sweet cig at 0.5-1. Vanilla of choice at appropriate amounts. Smooth has some body so I’d probably stay with inw shisha before any others but I can see most any other working if you want some variety.
This one is good as is and is mostly balanced out by day 3. If you try it, I hope you enjoy it. If you change it, let me know because I am always tweaking and like how the parts here can be altered to keep it fresh.
Mezcla aromática de las mejores hojas de tabaco Arabica, Virginia y de base el delicioso RY4, el alma de esta receta está inspirada en el apreciado American Luxury, pero aquí se acentúa más la nueva incorporación del potente sabor del tabaco Arabica, acompañado del fragante aroma del tabaco Virginia y dejando en un segundo plano el caramelo, la galleta y el aromático café Arabica. Toda una experiencia para los sentidos y los amantes del sabor y el aroma de un buen tabaco.
This is DMC's final released version of Boba's Bounty. While the first mix was there but not quit what I was looking for. I feel it was missing some sweetness and overall bakery profile from the OG Boba's In v1. I still seemed to get to much of the leather from the Arabian tobacco after a few days of steep. It was still in the middle where I wanted it but it was still playing to much of a dominate rule. Dropping it down to .15% seems to do the trick just giving that accent I need but by doing this the raisin profile was there but still needed a lift. Trying different types of bakeries starting with Capellas sugar cookie seemed to get the job done but was lacking the sweetness and raisin. It works but had limitations maybe even causing some muting or over taking the mix it was okay but I felt we can do better. So off to graham cracker. It was a no go for us. The graham cracker for me at least was not playing nice and seemed to clash and cause overall muting and overtaking the whole profile. Then Blackmamba reminded me of the oatmeal granola notes that I seem to pick up from the og profile. Milk and honey? for me yes but still seems to fall short. Pushing milk and honey? Well if you have worked with it you know it can be a dominate one that likes to be the star when pushed and that's not what we want. So Tpa oatmeal cookie hmmm... Wait did he say oatmeal. YES! YES! and YES!!! This one was is weird I know!!! Starting at suggested 1.5% from mamba I knew it was going to be to high but what the hay.. So yeah 1.5% was to high and had to much of the oatmeal profile and was distracting the tobacco notes. It had that sweetness, bakery and tricking your palate into to thinking there is raisin in there while overall boosting the raisin notes from the Arabian. Now don't get me wrong 1.5% is a pleasant vape but it was boba's oatmeal instead of bounty. Playing with percentages knocking it down to 0.5% balanced it self out tying the whole recipe together giving you a pretty accurate profile of boba"s. Granted Clones are not 100% dead on but we feel if you are a boba's fan this will sure fill that void. Enjoy!!!!! https://youtu.be/BVmnajUXIso
This is Dmc's first version of Boba's Bounty. I really enjoyed FE Black n Milk in this mix but Flavor Express no longing carries it. The sub for this and feel is close to the milk but has a little bit more chocolate.
FE Black Mile is the base tobacco used. It is a nice bold tobacco with hints of chocolate nice dirty tobacco cigar flavor that is mildly sweet.
FLV Arabian is used to recreate the spicy earthy notes with hints of fruit raisins that I pick up on from boba's at first I went .5% but it was adding to much of a leather top note so I dropped it to .25% to let layer in the center of the vape.
FLV Milk & Honey for the bakeries notes I chose this. I know its milk n honey lol but I immediately pick this profile from boba's and I do get underlying bakery profiles from milk honey not sure why but I do.
Saline I chose this additive to give that slight wetness and center mouthfeel I get from boba's as well to tame the Arabian. I know this will bring out the coco notes slightly but is not that noticeable. I feel we are on the right track with this mix. Phase 2 I may use some type of bakery that may be lacking a little but not far off. Sugar cookie maybe? We shall see. This mix though by itself is pretty good where its sits as far as being a good dessert tobacco. With a few more tweaks I feel it can only get closer
day 2 this is a very pleasant vape - mild and flavorful - 5 days - same mild and flavorful - okay this recipe is a good one now... I can only imagine it getting better with a longer steep but at 5 days it's really nice. I had wanted more cinnamon but not overpowering as it is you cannot really make out the cinnamon but the flavors here do come together to produce a great vape. It's just like the title - vanilla tobacco - and it seems just super simple even though the recipe has all this stuff in it - the vape seems very basic - vanilla tobacco LOL
I was aiming for a "spiced" type tobacco here and these spices from Apple Filling blend well with the bright, spiced nature of turkish. I added arabian to add a hint of bold tobacco flavor. Apple Filling adds plenty of spice to the mix, and Apricot/Cranberry just go well together with this for a good spiced fruit tobacco taste.