Flavor Profile: creamy dessert tobacco
Used in 518 recipes at an average of 5.046%.
This came about from 2 things: My love of Charlie Noble's Pistachio RY4 , and my newfound love for Fear's Cardinal
Charlie Noble Pistschio RY4 was my first ADV. I loved it. When I started mixing I was stoked to find DiYorDie had a somewhat close clone of it. His one shot was my first foray into mixing. So this profile holds a special place for me.
Fast forward a couple years and I haven't messed with tobacco's much for some time now. Then do to popular reviews I finally pick up holy holy RY4 and some Flavorah Tobaccos , and try Cardinal. Blown away. Freaking delicious.
So now comes this, not quite a straight up Pistachio Cardinal, and not quite PRY4 with holy holy ry4 subbed. More of an inspired by both greats situation.
I started with just TPA Pistachio but then I found WF Pistachio Cream pairs really nicely with TPA while giving it a bit more of a sweet, slightly creamy vibe so I added that.
I've been wanting a way to use Vanilla Bourbon but it just doesnt fit in most applications but here it pairs nicely with the tobacco and nutty notes
As far as the tobacco, I love the way that Red Burley pairs with and adds more to the tobacco notes of the holy grail ry4
Lastly , I added hazelnut. It helps a tiny bit with the nuttiness but mostly it just adds a nice subtle sweetness to the mix.
This is an update of first narcissism recipe. Now i use Holy Grail RY4 for more vape pleasure. Also Vanilla custard goes to 4% and bavarian lowers to 1,5% and we have a boost to nuts from Vanilla custard FLV. If you liked the first recipe, this one you gonna love it, i can promise you that!! Enjoy!!
A Very merry Tobacco. This is a Tobacco that rings with something Festive!
My selected Xmas Flavor here was TPA Black Cherry, bringing in a dark mysterious little something in the profile.
I mixed this up and initially tested it on a Dripper, it was quite sweet for me but might work for some on a RDA. I personally find this is Rocking in a MTL tank
I started vaping it from about Day 5 but this really comes together great the longer it goes
All of Fear's original notes for Cardinal are below. It's quite frankly one of the best dessert tobaccos around.
Thinking on what a Hobbit would try to get out of a tobacco strain was an amusing exercise. With crispy bacon off the market my options were limited.
So I went with what I know best, besides yogurts, custards. I cut my shake and vape custard stone down so that I wasn't interfering with the innate creaminess of the HHRY4. What I wanted was a creamy custard backnote, which I think I achieved.
The butterscotch is there to push the caramel in the recipe forward a bit more.
It retains the smooth richness of Cardinal while adding a unique twist.
Fear's Original Notes:
I can keep revising recipes for months if not years as I get bored with a really good profile and do something different with it. Gonna release this one before I change it again. :) I have three favorite "RY4" concentrates. The original from Hangsen holds a special place in my heart, RY4 Double from TFA does as well but it tends to be on the harsh side for me. Lastly, Holy Grail RY4 from DIYFS is near to perfect for me but suffers from what all RY4s do, (in my opinion)... NOT ENOUGH TOBACCO
A simple, delectable desert tobacco.
Holy Grail RY4, one of my absolute favorite RY4s, heavy on the warm creamy caramel, heavy on the vanilla. used a bit heavy here to get the "warm creamy caramel" to the front.
FLV Red Burley, I absolutely love this concentrate. It is one of the handful of tobacco concentrates that are not NETs that I feel truly compares to a single varietal test to the actual tobacco it is named after. This is an odd concentrate, it comes in STRONG and true as a shake and vape, then dies off over a week, coming back in week two of the steep, less strong but way more nuance.
FLV Kentucky Blend, this is a really good analog cigarette concentrate, used a bit low here for a very slight smoky ash without having to use a TA. This can be left out completely but I feel it adds a nice note.
The pairing of the two FLV tobaccos here is to amplify and authenticate the little bit of tobacco that Holy Grail has. If I am going to long steep a bottle of this >3 weeks I bump the FLV Tobaccos up to double what they are here. Not that they fade away but at double what they are they maintain a stronger presence outside of the 3 week steep.
This is a really good shake and vape (by my definition, at least let it sit over night after vigorous shaking), it does change significantly over the next 14 days hitting it's peak of meld and nuance at that point. If you are a desert tobacco lover give this one a shot in a larger mix to experience the change in profile and nuance. I listed 60 vg as ideal as I feel tobaccos benefit from a bit higher PG, but it is also really good at my max VG percentage of 70. This is really good in any flavor atty/tank, different coil types and airflow will accentuate different aspects of the profile immensely.
If you have not tried @Fear Cardinal recipe, please do yourself a favor and mix it. It is delish. Summer and Fall of 2017, I kept at least 500ml of this ready to vape all the time. I have a problem with peaches, I love them. So, I thought what would Cardinal be like with Peach? So, I tried it and came up with GA Cardinal. Why not Peach Cardinal? Well, have you seen a Peach Cardinal?
So, I kept the base recipe the same. I added FA White Peach and FA Apricot. What comes out of this, is a delicious RY4 tobacco with a caramelized Peach on the exhale. I am in love.
This is a complex cavendish with peanut butter and caramel. Dark, mysterious, sweet, and nutty. Like David Attenborough.
This is probably the 10th version of this recipe that started simple, but became a pain in the ass. All I wanted was a strong cavendish, with a little caramel and moderate peanut butter. I kept trying to force it to work with only INW Cavendish as the main note, and it just wouldn't happen. It smells great, but it doesn't translate. Picked up FLV Cavendish, even worse. Smells amazing, but has this horrible cloying cherry in the background that is almost nauseating. So I ended up making my own cavendish, which is what I want to taste when I smell INW Cavendish and FLV Cavendish.
INW Tobacco Cavendish Type - This stayed in, because it is still a solid 'cavendish'. It's a little spiced, sweet, and smooth.
INW Tobacco Kent - This was the breakthrough. All attempts up until I realized this was what I was looking for were trash compared to the attempts with it. I love this stuff. Dark molasses, a little anise, spices, and almost burned brown sugar. It's perfect. Unfortunately though it has been discontinued. I apparently bought the last two 30mls from vaperstek, so if anyone really wants to mix this hit me up on reddit and I'll send you some. I should be able to mix a few gallons with what I've got.
INW Gold Ducat- Topping for the cavendish. This is mild and syrupy, a little bit of plum or raisin back in there, with some light leaf. I wanted those dark fruits and they come through after a steep.
FLV Cured Tobacco - Dry, nutty, and woody. I needed everything this has for the cavendish.
INW Classic for Pipe Black - Pretty much a standard for down and dirty tobacco mixes. I didn't get too crazy with it because I wanted to keep it cavendish rather than a cigar dunked in a jar of peanut butter.
INW DNB - I push it up to 1.5, but for the masses I think 1 is good. Ashtray.
TPA DX Peanut Butter - One of if not the only DX that is way more kickass than the OGs. Regular PB will work but obviously not as awesome.
DFS Holy Holy Grail RY4 - So this was the bastard that made this happen. All I get from this is caramel. No vanilla, no tobacco. Just an amazing, melted, gooey caramel. I did another RY4 that needed TPA RY4D, and I had to do something with this. It was a serious bitch to work with. Any higher and it's cloying and sticky and buries everything. Much lower and it disappears into the peanut butter and Kent. 2% is perfect and it took many attempts to get it right.
I hope you all enjoy this as much as I enjoy everything about Mr. Attenborough. It needs minimum 3 weeks, more won't hurt.
It's starting to get a little cooler, and the leaves are starting to cover the ground, here in Tennessee.
Autumn definitely inspired me to create this recipe. The custard base used in this recipe is Fresh03's quick base using LB Vanilla Ice Cream, and Flv Vanilla Pudding. I do enjoy a good tobacco vape, but to me the Holy, Holy Grail RY4 flavoring is more of a subtle caramel, and the FA Butterscotch helps enhance that caramel note. I use TPA Kettle Corn, and Flv Popcorn for the corn notes. I don't have FA Corn, but I think these two do a decent job for a very subtle corn note.
You can enjoy this after a 7 day steep, but I recommend a full 2 weeks.