Sagamore REMIX... again.
Sagamore by Adirondack vapors (along with their delicious chai flavored McKinley or Saratoga, their rendition on the tried and true strawberries and cream) was the stuff that got me off of smokes when I got my first vape. Since I've gotten into DIY, I've been cloning and remixing these 3 often. Sagamore is simply a RY4 with a bit of cupcake, creams, cinnamon, maybe graham cracker. In this remix, I forego the cracker, the extra creams, and the obvious choices like TFA RY4 Double, CAP CDS, or CAP Vanilla Cupcake. Instead, I went in a different direction but aimed to keep it simple. Think I struck gold. A thick, smooth caramel, touch of tobacco that cuts through all the heft, a nice cakey base to build it all upon, with a hint of that good ol' cinnamon tickle.
This one's solid, cost effective, and easily an ADV or big-batch worthy. Give it a go :)
I don't remember much from childhood. I think I simply killed off many of those brain cells in my delinquent adolescence, but I do have one fond memory that I doubt I'll ever forget.
I remember I was maybe 3 or 4, in pre-school, and my dad had been working odd hours all week so we had barely seen each other at home. This particular day, he didn't have to go in. My mom typically took me to school, but this time my dad offered -- except when we make it to the school, he simply keeps driving his 70s Ford Explorer straight past the drop off area. Confused, I ask him where we're going and he smiles while answering "we're playing hookie!" I'd never heard the term, so that didn't help relieve my confusion at all, but it sounded fun so I went with it.
We went and got some cheap McDonalds pancakes, played some minigolf, and saw a movie for the day.
With the story of quality time spent doing goofy shit with a loving father as inspiration, I'm submitting this as my entry to December's mixers club theme. The theme this month (and last?) is telling a story, and this just felt like the right thing to share. This is a simple, fast food pancake & maple syrup. How about some recipe notes?
FW Waffle + CAP VCC + PUR Cookie + FLV Cupcake batter: This is the pancake. FW waffle does a pretty good job as the foundation here, but to myself and most others it's just not cakey enough. That's where Van Cupcake comes in, except VCC is pretty hefty on the palette and has a strong icing kinda vibe to me for some reason. So I kept it low and helped mellow out some of it's heavy vanilla and icing notes with FLV cupcake batter. Add some soft crumble with PUR Cookie, chose this over FA cookie as it's a bit softer of a cookie IMO.
FA Butterscotch + FA Maple Syrup: These sort of team up with the nice maple notes in FW Waffle to provide a great gooey, buttery syrup without being overpoweringly MAPLE.
FA Joy + CAP LMP: Bit of a twist. My dad nowadays likes to cook his pancakes with a bit of lemon juice in the batter for some sweet zing and almost fries them so they have a really nice crispy ring around the edges. So I tried to include those notes in this, still unsure if they're coming through but I feel like I taste some fried stuff and soft lemon in the background somewhere occasionally.
OFFNOTES: As a certain reddit flavor review put it, FW Waffle can taste like you're just licking a hot iron. I tried to keep it at a respectable but low enough range to avoid this but sometimes I still get a hint of it. If you like slightly burnt pancakes from a cast iron pan, it may not bother you though. Hoping that with time a long steep will help the syrup and cakes blossom enough to cover it up.
Bananas Foster topped with a bourbon caramel drizzle, toasty buttered pecans, and a melty scoop of vanilla ice cream.
Mixed for more restricted direct lung RTAs, but it's good in everything.
TFA Bananas Foster + Banana Cream = the dream team. Seriously the best. Super smooth & gooey banana with some caramelization and slight bready notes.
FW Caramel Cinn Roll + Kentucky Bourbon = FW CCR is amazing. It's got one of the best caramel bakery flavors out there, super sweet and gooey caramel with a nice fluffy cinnamon roll underneath it. The Kentucky bourbon on its own is rather syrupy too, so adds to that thickness and leaves a bit of that astringent boozy aftertaste to the caramel, definitely pokes through the heaviness of the rest of the recipe too. Quite delicious.
INW Custard does two things for the recipe: Thickens up that mouthfeel but also brings some of that eggy french toast vibe to the bananas foster base we're building on. I opt for less creamy and more buttery/eggy custards in my bakeries because of this. TFA Van Cust wouldn't be too bad here either and would likely blend well with the TFA base. INW just steeps quicker.
PUR Butter Pecan = It's a decent flavor. Just wanted some more malty buttery notes and some nuttiness. FW would be a good replacement but I wanted to mess with some Purilum stuff to see if they'd hold up. Not super upfront but I still think it has its place here.
A Camel Turkish Jade inspired mix, intended for a short-steep & MTL vape (Kayfun Prime for me specifically).
When you need a nice bacco vape quick, hangsen and FLV seem to be the ones to go for. I was considering HS Arabic but didn't want the fruity notes so much as just a camel-ish tobacco blend.
Opted for HS Turkish combined with a bit of FLV Oriental for a decently dynamic, leafy/spicy base to build around. FLV CC is bringing some of that ash note and adding a touch of a burley note to liven up the tobacco mix. A dash of menthol arctic and ws-23 for that nice mentholated effect. S'camel is simply an additive that brings some Ethyl Maltol and Acetyl Pyrazine here to subtly sweeten, soften, and add a touch of nutty/graininess to the recipe.
Threw some shit together, wanted a nice warm vanilla and spicy tobacco to toss in the Kayfun Prime for the day. Semi-sweet, dry, and leaves that nice little nose tickle that I love. AP @ 1 drop per 15ml. This is mixed for MTL atomizers.
As a SNV, vapes pretty well! Will modify/add notes as it steeps.
A golden Turkish tobacco, with undertones of classic Eurasian spice and subtle dried fruits. This time with some adjustments in consideration of feedback.
INW Gold For Pipe - Using this as the primary base, nice light blend of tobaccos with slight sticky sweetness. Some notes from ELR mentioned citrus notes but it's pretty indiscernible for me personally, just adds to the slight fruity undertones here.
INW Gold Ducat (reformulated version) - Mellower than the old one IMO, but still a moderately dense body that adds some dimension to the vape, brings some smokiness and spice with dry fruit notes.
INW TA Oriental - Taking CBV's recommendation to use only one of the INW orientals, opted for the TA and bumping it up from 0.75 to 1.5% EDIT: bumped to 2%. Fuck it bud I'm just gunna send it.
It's supposed to be a strawberry wafer. I've been mixing for RTAs recently, so this is made to be used in a single coil RTA (I use a HotCig Centaur). Sub FA cookie in for PUR Cookie if you want, I just ran out.
I like using FA Torrone and Marzipan in lighter cookie recipes because the nougat and slight nutty notes they bring definitely help add a bit of a crunch/snap no matter how light your cookie base is. Here, my cookie base is PUR Cookie (FA Cookie is also an excellent one to use, probably my favorite for any wafer profile) and TFA Graham Cracker. I went with the tried and true TFA Strawberry + Strawb Ripe combo, even though it's difficult for me to taste sometimes. It's just a good strawberry flavor. In order to help keep it apparent in the mix I kept everything else low. Dragonfruit is simply there for its emulsifying properties and to help the strawberry from disappearing on me. I debated using Toasted Marshmallow because I didn't want to introduce too much EM into the mix but it's almost necessary to keep a nice airy wafer profile and fluff up that filling. FA Vienna Cream is also fantastic if you're after a nice fluffy cream filling.
Honestly it's vapeable after about 7-10 days, but for some reason I can't taste strawberries for shit unless they steep for like a month. After about 3 weeks it comes together perfectly and the strawberries and creams turn into that gooey strawberry cream inside of a wafer.
It's a profile that's been done a million times over but nothing ever really hit the spot for me. Although in the ballpark, this still isn't 100% what I want. But that could just be down to how difficult it is for me to taste strawberries.
As close to a SNV RY4 custard as I can get. Ham-handed with percentages but it is meant for RTA use (billow 2.5 personally).
FLV Tatanka is REALLY good SNV, sort of a sweet chewy leathery quality to it along with some honey-ish sweetness. I love this stuff. FLV Connecticut Shade is added to just darken it up a bit, bringing a nice coffee/cocoa note. JF RY4 Double is a solid base to work around for the caramel/molasses notes but it's not as monotone as TFA and IMO works well at accenting other dessert baccos.
INW Custard because it doesn't require much steeping and a bit of TFA Bavarian Cream to smooth out some edges.
EDIT: halved RY4D, dropped Tatanka by 0.5%, switched FLV Red Burley for Connecticut Shade and upped to 1.5%. Original mix developed a very strong raisin note after a month steep, presumably from both the tatanka and ry4d (both have a bit of a fruity note to me), which were pretty high strength. In retrospect, I wanted to keep the flavor of Tatanka but just wanted that ry4 there to emulsify everything, so modifications have been made to achieve that.
2nd mix I'm sending in for August's mixers club entry.
Since I started DIY, I've been chasing my white whale which is cloning Adirondack Vapor's McKinley. I got their approval on reddit to try and clone it even! It's not so much a latte as chai tea with a tiny dash of cream/milk from what I can recall. Notes of tea, spice, and cream. CAP Chai Latte is definitively the chai that they use. I've tried to combine it with everything else -- Custards, the tried and true creams, bakeries, horchata, lemons, etc. I fell down the rabbit hole of making the mix perpetually more complex over time and I'm taking this chance to bring it back to basics and rebuild the mix from the ground up.
To me, McKinley is so thick its almost juicy and I often found myself almost choking on the thickness of the vape even at just 70/30. Something in there is giving it a really really dense mouthfeel, but its not eggy like a custard. So I'm opting to try TFA's FV Deluxe for its malty, acetyl goodness. FA Catalan Cream for its spice and citrus notes here, which compliment CAP Chai Tea's natural spice and citrus note as well. FA Honey is there to give it some of that sticky sweetness, and some of the slightly vegetal/floral properties that clover honey has. This was a last minute addition and may be on the chopping block for flavors to remove/replace in this recipe, but when I thought about that thick mouthfeel and mouth-coating sweetness of McKinley, Honey seemed to fit the bill perfectly and I don't know why I didn't consider it sooner.
This isn't the end result by any means, but hopefully it's a good jumping off point to work with after I get some feedback from the group!
Changes: Dropped FA Honey from 0.75 -> 0.25. The longer it steeped, the more the FA Honey ruled over the mix. Ended up being chai flavored honey. FA Honey at 0.75 is fucking awesome if you want a sticky goopy clover honey flavor, with the pollen-y mouthfeel to match! But not what I wanted in this mix.