Used in 286 recipes at an average of 1.831%.
The theme for mixer's club was Duets. I decided to take my love for Cardinal and try to see if I could get more tobacco out of it. My problem with Cardinal was always that it was just never enough tobacco flavor. So I decided to try it with Brigade 2506 by @ChemicalBurnVictim as like a peanut butter and jelly tobacco blend.
The results were strange. I first just lifted the holy holy grail ry4 and mixed it with BFP and TA CC. That wasn't working so I added back in everything on both recipes until I had a straight mash up of the two. For one tester, I just threw in some Am4a on a whim at 1%. for some reason that mix worked better than the others. The two recipes needed a bridge to pull them together and I'm guessing that the slightly creamy Am4a was able to bridge that gap between the caramelly HHG and the darker brigade flavorings.
Based on feedback from @ID10-T, I experimented with the levels of Am4a to get it right. I sent him some samples to try with Am4a at 0/0.3/0.5/0.7/0.9% His feedback being that the Am4a stood out too prominently at 1.0 and I was inclined to agree. Testing at various levels we both agreed that 0.5/0.7 were indistinguishable.
So, here it is at the 11th hour as Holy Holy Grail Ry4 v1 fades into diy history... Sacrilege (Amped brigade 2506)
- I do like the 0.9 version as well. It leans more to that creamy bacco side than a mash-up and you can try that out too if you like more bacco and dont mind the distraction.
- just want to take a moment to thank the Mixer's club for encouragement and feedback and to ID10-T for helping me to get the levels perfect and trying out some samples to nail it down.
This is based on Kopel's Southerner : https://alltheflavors.com/recipes/58127#southerner_by_kopel
I used the "this could work" approach in adding INW Black for Pipe and reducing percents of the Southerner flavors except for Lovage Root, which was doubled. The Kentucky Bourbon still stands out clearly, and in combination with Lovage and the other flavors, giving this a bit of chewing tobacco flavor.
Not sure how long this takes to steep since I didn't try it until 7 weeks after mixing, so I'll go with the usual 30 days for INW tobaccos.
Fig and dark berry tobacco.
My original recipe https://alltheflavors.com/recipes/94745#honey_i_figged_up_the_bacco_by_ebc88. I used Fig @2% and didn't tame all the anise/licorice off that it brings along with it. Then I seen this recipe https://alltheflavors.com/recipes/126455#concrete_newtons_by_alfredpudding, and thought I would give VT Fig another shot. It pairs perfectly with VT Red Dates & the FLV Milk & Honey adds some creaminess and sweetness to the fruits. Flv Native & INW Black for Pipe pair excellently together, & the INW keeps the FLV tobaccos from doing the boomerang fading thing they like to do when they steep. Black for Pipe also has some really great berry notes mixed in with the pipe style tobacco. The VT FIG & Red Dates really bring those notes out.
I enjoyed this fresh but INW tobaccos need 10-14 days to steep. So they fully come through in the mix.
A little while back I got myself trapped in another Boba’s Bounty hole. It was really a dark place to be because I spent so much time trying to clone a juice I didn’t even like. So to get me out of that insane hole, I decided to take that profile, and do it how I would do it. And, more importantly, make something that I would actually like. That’s what this is.
It’s a very middle of the road recipe. No real top notes to wear down your tongue. Not too sweet. Very full flavor. There’s a dessert/bakery aspect, obviously, but there’s also some decent smoky tobacco notes. It walks the line between several different things. It has been a bit of a challenge for me to let it steep long enough to see the places it goes. Right after mixing, the Gold Ducat was pretty apparent. It had a stronger smoky vibe. After about a week the graham cracker, Butter Pecan, and Red Dates started to take over a bit more. It’s been a while since I’ve been excited about a recipe, and this one has me pretty excited.
I think these people will enjoy this recipe:
Don’t let the name fool you, it’s not a super smoky mix. I just like naming recipes after Iron and Wine songs.
Heavy ,roll your own style, tobacco vape with dark tobacco-spicy -leather-honey notes.needs a good 3week steeping,but can be vaped after 14 days.certainly not a snv mix,inawera's tobaccos are not that kind.i only vape this in mtl device,i don't think it is suitable for rda
king of the road says you move too slow
This is a complex cavendish with peanut butter and caramel. Dark, mysterious, sweet, and nutty. Like David Attenborough.
This is probably the 10th version of this recipe that started simple, but became a pain in the ass. All I wanted was a strong cavendish, with a little caramel and moderate peanut butter. I kept trying to force it to work with only INW Cavendish as the main note, and it just wouldn't happen. It smells great, but it doesn't translate. Picked up FLV Cavendish, even worse. Smells amazing, but has this horrible cloying cherry in the background that is almost nauseating. So I ended up making my own cavendish, which is what I want to taste when I smell INW Cavendish and FLV Cavendish.
INW Tobacco Cavendish Type - This stayed in, because it is still a solid 'cavendish'. It's a little spiced, sweet, and smooth.
INW Tobacco Kent - This was the breakthrough. All attempts up until I realized this was what I was looking for were trash compared to the attempts with it. I love this stuff. Dark molasses, a little anise, spices, and almost burned brown sugar. It's perfect. Unfortunately though it has been discontinued. I apparently bought the last two 30mls from vaperstek, so if anyone really wants to mix this hit me up on reddit and I'll send you some. I should be able to mix a few gallons with what I've got.
INW Gold Ducat- Topping for the cavendish. This is mild and syrupy, a little bit of plum or raisin back in there, with some light leaf. I wanted those dark fruits and they come through after a steep.
FLV Cured Tobacco - Dry, nutty, and woody. I needed everything this has for the cavendish.
INW Classic for Pipe Black - Pretty much a standard for down and dirty tobacco mixes. I didn't get too crazy with it because I wanted to keep it cavendish rather than a cigar dunked in a jar of peanut butter.
INW DNB - I push it up to 1.5, but for the masses I think 1 is good. Ashtray.
TPA DX Peanut Butter - One of if not the only DX that is way more kickass than the OGs. Regular PB will work but obviously not as awesome.
DFS Holy Holy Grail RY4 - So this was the bastard that made this happen. All I get from this is caramel. No vanilla, no tobacco. Just an amazing, melted, gooey caramel. I did another RY4 that needed TPA RY4D, and I had to do something with this. It was a serious bitch to work with. Any higher and it's cloying and sticky and buries everything. Much lower and it disappears into the peanut butter and Kent. 2% is perfect and it took many attempts to get it right.
I hope you all enjoy this as much as I enjoy everything about Mr. Attenborough. It needs minimum 3 weeks, more won't hurt.
This is Black Phillip's softer, more gentle, younger brother. The shift to fall weather, the Halloween season, and the arrival of FLV Smoked Butterscotch necessitated the creation of this remix.
This is a smoky, fall custard. In place of FA Black Fire, I used the much more forgiving FLV Smoked Butterscotch. The result is a butterscotch custard kissed by tobacco and smoke. Works as a SNV, but give it a few days and the flavors really come together. Enjoy.
DFS is Euro Flavor Orient Tobacco Black ATF doesn’t seem to have any of the Euro Flavor stuff listed, but a whole lot of the DIYFS tobaccos have mysteriously similar names. Hmmm...
Anywho, this is a tobacco and cedar forward RY4 recipe. It ain’t the kind of RY4 that’s going to remind you of grandma’s cookies or anything like that.
EF Orient Tobacco Black: Strong cedar note. Like when you open an old cedar chest and breathe in that strong, musty cedar scent. It’s a taste I never realized I was missing in DIY until I got some of the Euro Flavor tobaccos.
Black Fire: Why not burn that cedar a little bit? Give it some bite.
Black for Pipe: You know I just gotsta throw it in there to up the tobacco and bring a less intense smokiness to it than Black Fire brings.
RY4 Double: Pairs well with a stronger tobacco to mellow things out a little, but doesn’t lose the bite. Using the JF here to get away with a shorter steep time, and also because it’s just a bit cleaner and works better with real tobaccos. Doesn’t seem as sweet to me.
Vanilla Ruyan Custard: Has a bit of bite of its own with some nice vanilla notes. Good body as well.
This one seems to be good to go fairly quickly. After about three days the Black Fire and Cedar mellow out a considerable amount, and it gets smoother from there.
This is a tough one for me, as I am by no means a tobacco connoisseur, but this concentrate blows me away with its authenticity! Back when I smoked a pipe and rolled cigarettes with pipe tobacco, one of my favorite tobaccos was this nordic spiced blend, a dark black tobacco with various spices and a touch of sweetness. This reminds me exactly of smoking that tobacco. If I were blindfolded and were smoking that tobacco out of a pipe and vaping this side-by-side, I feel I'd have a very difficult time telling the two apart. You get this smokey quality from it that is very pleasing and reminiscent of smoking pipe tobacco, but not a sort of ashy, overpowering, super dry smokiness. The tobacco itself is a deep, dark tobacco, with subtle spices, and a touch of sweetness from the smoked-plum. I don't get any of that "plastic" or "barber-shop-powder" flavor I get from a lot of tobaccos... it just tastes like a f***in delicious dark pipe tobacco. They nailed it with this one, and I get the feeling their whole "for pipe" line is going to have very similar qualities about it